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« on: April 06, 2010 06:13:26 PM »

This is my second batch of lye soap (using ohhappyday's tutorial and smittenheart's awesome advice to use paprika as coloring!  My first batch of soap was REALLY REALLY hard to unmold (no seriously...  really hard), so this time I tried something new and used pringles cans for the molds:







(obviously a few of the bars came out a little wonky, but I don't have a soap cutter, so I did the best I could.  the two pieces at the very bottom of the can stuck a little too, you can see the result of that on the far left).






They smell so good, I can't wait to use them!  I was trying to make them look like this link from the Pioneer woman:

http://thepioneerwoman.com/homeandgarden/2010/02/seattle-sundries-soap/

Next time I'll be more careful with my cutting technique, but I'm pretty happy for now.  I just used cleaned out pringles cans, and peeled them away to unmold.  Next time I'll line the very bottom with a little circle of parchment paper or something, but I had literally no trimming/waste using the cans! 

Thanks for looking Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2010 08:09:53 PM »

I think it looks great! Pringles cans not only make nice, round soaps, but it's good recycling too! Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010 12:32:00 AM »

Oooh Pringles cans! What a good idea! How many did you use?

Rose jasmine sounds like it would smell pretty Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010 01:21:14 AM »

Ooh looks great!
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010 06:13:11 AM »

Oooh Pringles cans! What a good idea! How many did you use?

I didn't notice until I started pouring the soap that I had two different sized pringles cans (I'm smart like that hehe).  I filled one "super stack" to about an inch from the top and filled another normal can to about half (it was a two pound recipe).  I ended up with 12 bars that are about 2 inches thick each, but I also made a single bar of baby soap for a friend of mine before adding the coloring and scent.  After they set up, I just used scissors to cut the can at the top, and it peeled away really easily!

Thanks for the nice comments everyone Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010 07:18:30 AM »

Oh man, that sounds heavenly, and they look fantastic.  I love your swirls!  The mold, too.  My sister is a Pringles fiend--I'm going to have to ask her to step it up.  Grin

Is the smell just to die for?  Mmm....
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010 12:07:18 AM »

great idea!
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010 05:00:07 AM »

Oh Ive never heard of a super stack! Maybe they dont sell them here... Or maybe Ive never noticed (my bf always makes us rush through grocery shopping... he gets all cranky pants). I actually only noticed last week that the usual place we shop at sells lye! After weeks of wondering where I would be able to get some... Im a dingbat!
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010 06:06:20 AM »

Is the smell just to die for?  Mmm....

Actually, I used two ounces of essential oil (one of rose, one of jasmine) but the smell isn't very strong on this batch Sad  I'm learning that some essential oils just do a better job in lye than others.  It's a light scent, but what's there is amazing Cheesy 

I used the first bar today, it has great lather, and I don't even notice the paprika (other than the lovely color).  I think next batch I'm going to try ginger bergamot with turmeric coloring..

Do I have to buy FO ginger or does that exist in natural form?  Can I just boil some ginger in water and add that to the lye?  I'm still working on "rules" hehe Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2010 06:46:42 AM »

Two ounces and the scent is faint?  Goodness!  How large is your batch?  I usually do between 15-20 mL for a three-pound batch, and it's pretty fragrant.

Ginger EO is a real thing!  I've got some, and while I love it in the end product, the smell of it curing or in raw soap makes me feel a little ill (I CPOPed a ginger batch once and had to leave the house).  It's always worth it, though--the soap ends up smelling awesome.  People describe it as being sort of woody, but I feel like it smells warm and, well, gingery.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2010 06:57:08 AM »

Awesome thanks!  I think ginger bergamot is going to be amazing! 

I just did a 2 lb batch, but the scent really isnt' very strong.  Honestly, I can smell the coconut oil in the soap over the scent a little bit :-/  I haven't ever tried FO's before, I'll have to be careful with how much I add Wink  Thanks for the advice, I'll be making this batch in the garage hehe Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010 08:04:23 AM »

Hee!  It might not make everyone feel sick, but it sure does for me.  (I think it's supposed to be good for nausea--go figure.)

Where did you get your FOs from?
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2010 10:13:25 AM »

Where did you get your FOs from?

I've always used EO's in the past, I got them from Puritan's Pride this time (if you click from the ad on google, they have coupon codes, I got my last batch for 40% off!).  I think I'm going to buy a few FO's from Sweetcakes (I've heard good things) and see how they do.. 

This might be a question for another topic, but does anybody know exactly what's in a FO?  Why don't things like ginger and lilac have EO's?

Yeah..  officially soap crazy Cheesy  I might make another batch this weekend! 
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2010 11:44:16 AM »

Ginger is an EO.   Wink  In answer to the rest of your question, I actually wondered the same thing a little while ago in this thread here-- Miss Bloom's answer, partway down, is especially illuminating: http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=340154.0

It looks like the Puritan Pride rose and jasmine EOs are "100% Pure Blended Essential Oil."  Which is slippery wording (pure... blended?), but I think what it means is that you got a mixture of things, not all of which are EO.  This would explain why your smell didn't come through!  If you had used 2 oz. of pure essential oil in a 2 lb. batch, the smell would be knocking you backward.

I've heard really great stuff about Daystar too!  They're probably a swell place to go.  I always like to plug WSP as well--they ship EOs and FOs for free, so if you're just trying to pick up a few more bottles of scent, you don't have to pay out the rear for shipping.

Hooray for being bitten by the soaping bug!  Can't wait to see what you come up with next.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010 02:56:21 PM »

I think a 100% pure blended EO would have to be all EO from the way they worded that...but the blend part could mean it's 90% orange EO or something cheaper and just a little rose or jasmine, both of which are insanely expensive as pure EO's.

That puritan place looks crazy expensive, unless I was looking in the wrong spot (totally possible) plus it seemed that most of their stuff was listed in 10 mL? That's like 1/3 of an ounce. They appear to be geared towards aromatherapy and not soap makers (again, I could have been looking at a different website)
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010 03:54:35 PM »

Fantastic! What a great idea to use the Pringles can. The ultimate in reuse/recycling!
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2010 06:35:21 PM »

** As a note, this post is totally meant to be helpful and informative, I sincerely hope it doesn't come off as sounding shmarmy. Smiley **

Hmmm I think I may see the scent issue. I went to the same site MareMare did and it is insanely expensive because it's geared for aromatherapy. What that means is two things:

Did you use two ounces or two bottles? Because the bottles are 10ml. (.33oz), you probably only used a little over half an ounce. Also, that is *not* a pure EO, it's, as the website says "100% blended essential oil." Rose EO is very, very pricey by itself, so I'm guessing it's mixed with a carrier oil or other floral oils.

By and large, I highly recommend avoiding vitamin/aromatherapy stores. For one thing the prices are outrageous, for another, aromatherapy oils are generally suspect on ingredients. Sometimes they are pure, but others they are ... questionable. I've seen some at Whole Foods that contain alcohol as a preservative.

I hope maybe that answers the scent issue? Again, I'm totally trying to be helpful for your next attempt, which I hope we'll get to see because it looks like you're off to a fabulous start! I forgot how much I love round soaps! Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010 07:23:12 AM »

Nymeria, I was thinking exactly the same thing..  I think I've been suckered!  A friend at work recommended that site, but I honestly think my local natural foods store is cheaper now that I've ordered from Puritan's..  My local natural foods place has 1 ounce pure EO (no blends) for around $9-12 depending on the EO (some are much more obviously).  I think for the next batch, I could get an ounce of Bergamot and an ounce of Ginger for under $20..  I'd be completely willing to find a better online retailer though, any suggestions? 

I'm still curious..  what exactly is in your average FO?  I think I'm stuck on the "all natural" thing for soap, but I'm curious how much a little fake scent would really matter...  I really *really* want to make lilac soap, and the FO seems to be the only option.  I keep thinking too that if I add an ounce or two of fake stuff, it's still waaaay more natural than store bought..

Thanks so much for all of the excellent advice guys, it's all been incredibly helpful! 
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010 08:23:57 AM »

It's hard to say what's "in" FO. It's oil based, I know that. I think the majority of them are maybe sweet almond oil or some other gentle carrier oil, and then artificial oils that produce the fragrance. And YES, even if you fragrance at 5% by volume, any artificial oil you purchase is going to lightyears from crap you buy at the store. Break it down mathmatically: If you fragrance at 3-5%, your soap is 97-95% natural. A bar of Caress, Dove, Dial, Lever 2000, etc. is probably hovering around the 40% range (and that's probably being generous). I'll take 97% over 40% any day of the week!!! Cheesy

Chock it up to be a newbie to the craft. Again, when I first started I paid an obscene amount for palm oil ($8/lb) because I didn't know I could buy it at the Afrikaans market or online for 1/4 of the price. Live and learn, right? Wholesale Supplies Plus has good prices on EOs, and they have some amazing blends. Their energizing blend (sweet orange and ginger) is easily my most favorite ever! They also have Aveda-dupe EO blends. Smiley

Sweetcakes, answering an earlier question is amazing for FOs. Yes they are a little pricey but they are worth it. I have never had problems with their oils, and they smell sooooo heavenly. Their Papaya Nectar is heaven in a bottle (thank you, smittenheart, for getting me addicted to THAT). Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010 10:44:05 AM »

Argh, SO CHEAP Nymeria!  That's awesome, I'll definitely place a big order after payday.  I think all of the blends sound amazing Smiley

This is bad..  more supplies = more soap making (obsessing) Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2010 11:00:30 AM »

This is bad..  more supplies = more soap making (obsessing) Cheesy

haha, we totally need jackets. It IS addictive, but more soap = more clean. And in the end, doesn't that make the world a better place? Grin
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2010 11:53:03 AM »

Ok, in general I advise to stay away from ebay for soaping oils (I got burned by an awful supplier called Bulk OIls when I started out) but I have been buying my peppermint EO from this ebay store for years at what may be the best price out there, and he has expanded into lots of other EO's. He has listings for oils in both glass and plastic, which is why there are slightly different prices for the same thing

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Looks great and sounds like it would smell AWESOME!!!! My family eats alot of pringles, guess I'll have to have them save
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2010 06:22:53 PM »

I just bought a couple of EO's from that seller, MareMare Wink  This is bad..  this is very bad Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2010 06:23:42 PM »

Bwahahaha!

Let me know how you like him, I've had excellent service with him. What all did you get?
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2010 06:25:34 PM »

Ginger and bergamot Smiley  I'm going to tint with turmeric and try the pringles molds again!
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2010 09:47:47 AM »

the soaps look awesome..

cant wait to hear how the paprika worked for you?!!

mmmm...ginger!!
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2010 06:45:17 AM »

Mandy--how big is your recipe?  I was thinking about doing a Pringles' can batch too, but don't want to overfill!

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2010 06:48:08 AM »

Mandy--how big is your recipe?  I was thinking about doing a Pringles' can batch too, but don't want to overfill!

Thanks!

I just used the tutorial from ohhappyday:

Basic Unscented 40 ounces:
Coconut Oil 6 (15%)
Olive Oil     28 (70%)
Lard            6 (15%)
Lye            5.4 ounces
Water         10 ounces

That recipe filled one can and half filled a second, but like i said, one of the cans was a "super stacker" or whatever Wink 

Good luck, I'm going to try another batch next week!
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