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kriSmith
« on: January 10, 2010 08:57:15 PM »

Is the polymer strong enough to make toggles out of? I have a friend that is allergic to metal. I thought I could make big chunky toggles to use as a pendants. Will they break if they clank together too much? Any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010 10:45:03 AM »

All brands and lines of polymer clay are quite strong if the items made with them are thick and rounded shapes (and the clay is thoroughly baked).  Banging around won't bother them at all.
(...If you have applied a high-gloss finish though, or sanded and electric-buffed the pieces to get a gloss finish, those pieces could get a little less glossy looking if they're banged around a lot --the sanded/buffed ones could be easily rebuffed).

If the pieces you want to make are thin or projecting however, three of the Polyform clays wouldn't be suitable since they're much more brittle after baking in those situations (and then stressed) than the others.  Those three would be original Sculpey, SuperSculpey-flesh, and Sculpey III.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "using toggles as pendants" though.  I think of toggles as sort-of buttons which are threaded into some kind of corded loops to hold something closed.  Pendants I think of as something to hang from cording/etc around the neck.  Either function would be fine for (the strong) polymer clays though.

If you're interested in a bunch of lessons, examples, etc., of polymer clay used as buttons and similar things, check out this page at my site (polymer clay buttons can also be put into the washer and dryer at home on clothing without harm btw):
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/buttons.htm
And here's the page on pendants in particular:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/pendants_cording.htm

This page discusses using polymer clay for wind chimes where the banging-around factor would be similar:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/outdoor_snowglobes_fountains.htm (...click on More Outdoor Items)
And the main beads page has a section on keychains, etc., made from polymer clay:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/beads.htm (...click on the category near bottom called Misc. Uses for beads)


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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010 10:57:32 PM »

I'm terrible when it comes to explaining things, so instead I made a little image to do all the talking for me. Since your friend is allergic to metal, I assume you'll be using lots of natural and rubber type cording, correct? What I do is this...



Basically, you'll end up making beads and glue them in place. This works extremely well with rubber cording. And you can always make the 'bead' that fits through the loop more decorative so it could be more pendant-esque. Hope this helps!
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010 07:03:04 AM »

I was JUST thinking of trying this!   Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010 11:11:09 AM »

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I thought I could make big chunky toggles to use as a pendants.

Oh, I see now... you wanted to make clay toggle beads to hold closed the cord ends of corded-pendant-necklaces? (often called a ball and loop closure/clasp).

If that's what you were asking, there would be all kinds of ways to avoid metals when making closures and connectors for polymer clay items (and also to use them but not have them touch the skin as well).

The ends of rubbery cording can just be glued into or through the clay (two-part epoxy glue would be even longer lasting than a superglue, or perhaps use liquid polymer clay, etc. if needed)... or all kinds of tubes, "bails," and loops etc can be made from clay itself or other non-metal tubes/etc could be used to attached to pendants then have the cording run through them (with "stops" on ends of necessary, and/or not making cording long enough to go over head, etc...or even stretchy cording could be used for parts or all of the cording  )... metals could be treated like armatures under the clay by covering them with clay in shapes like jump rings, hooks, etc, or by covering them with other non-metal materials in various ways.

Here are just some examples of various ways to do things without metals:
One could be to use the ball-and-loop type of toggle clasp that _assassin showed... here are more examples of that:
http://desiredcreations.com/howTo_PJNcklClosures.htm
http://www.tonjastreasures.com/jewelry1/tn41.htm
http://www.tonjastreasures.com/jewelry1/tn16.htm (this one's also adjustable)
http://www.tonjastreasures.com/jewelry2/tn38.htm
donuts
http://www.desiredcreations.com/images/galleryTwoPics/IvoryDonutCompo.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1001artbeads/2080834785
simple
http://www.desiredcreations.com/images/galleryTwoPics/fiestaBlueNine1.jpg
or the holes could be on each side of a bead (or a little higer) and the cording strung though that
bails
http://www.tonjastreasures.com/jewelry1/jewelry1.html
http://www.desiredcreations.com/gallery2necklacesPg4.htm
http://www.polychic.com/images/geishatransferpendant_3.jpg
recipes "instant breakfast" powder mix
tubes or beads on sides, or holes
http://www.polymerclayexpress.com/octo2001.html
("rock vessels")
http://www.pbase.com/joanie/rocks ... http://beadyeyedbrat.com/rockgallery.html
http://members.tripod.com/PolymerClay_Interest/amacord.htm
misc
http://creaplastic.free.fr/08_05.htm
http://users.polytech.unice.fr/~claudine/Fimo/Gallerie/Textures/japo3.htm

And you might want to check out some of these pages at my site too for more on those topics and cordings, bead holes, "loops, tubes, and bails," etc:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/pendants_cording.htm
...click on Tubes and Bails
...click on Rubbery Cording
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/beads.htm
...click on Tubes, Foldovers, and Finishing Beads/Bead Caps/Etc.
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/beads-holes.htm

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Will they break if they clank together too much? Any suggestions?

As mentioned, polymer clay is quite strong unless it's thin or has projecting parts and is underbaked or (and) you've used on of those 3 "weak" Sculpeys.  Clunking around won't bother the baked clay at all.  
Stress can also be pulling or pressing one part away from the other rather than banging and will also cause problems in some situations... I don't think you'd be doing that with a simple necklace clasp unless your recipient were very active while wearing it or something, but that's also when having a "stronger" clay brand can help too (or using an armarture under the clay like wire or other things).
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kriSmith
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010 02:48:27 PM »

Awesome ideas! I'm ready to go play with clay. I was looking at the polymer magazine today and they have a toggle made out of clay. So I picked up the issue and am going to give it a try. I'll also try some of these. Oh....I gotta go play now.
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