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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2009 04:09:22 PM »

 KC, I'm sorry to hear about your tonsillitis! And you have to travel too???
As for your ideas, I think they're great. If we keep this thread alive, maybe there's time for it to develop, and people will start to get excited about it! A co-organizer is a good idea, seeing as how all the tracking and data transfer can be a lot of work.
  I had a thought last night... If there turns out to be a broad diversity in the idea thread, then we could group people by what types of works they'd like to Recieve.
I don't think the contributions need to be categorized, just there may be a bog-down on people's PC's if they get stuff they don't want.
  Or, they can all be posted in a gallery, and (If the site enables it) they can print or save any topic they're interested in. I need to check into the do-ability of printing directly from Craftster's galleries, or find options. This may help to keep people's e-mails from crashing??? I realized there could be issues opening mail if the attachments were huge! Or, maybe people wouldn't want 50 e-mails to read all of a sudden?
  These are the kind of details that need to be thought thru. I think a solid plan should be one that is considerate of people's needs in this area. Get better KC! At least you don't to "Type out loud", LOL! K
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2009 04:37:08 PM »

OK, here is my $.02. everyone post patterns, ideas in the 'discussion' thread, and then any participants, pm the pattern, idea creator, have a time line. Everyone has to pm a partner by the end of the sign ups and let the organizer know who they are 'claiming' or more than one, no limit to the number of ideas you want to use.

Then when we have a gallery, we post our items made from pattern, idea. I like to design on my computer and can send any partner a pdf file which can be enlarged or reduced per preference. I may do a personal embroidery pattern, no crochet, I don't read them, but there are plenty of ideas, such as a craft from a high resolution photograph the swapper has taken, a piece of poetry or written,  quote they made up, or is over the 95+ years.

This way, there is no copyright infringement, and our gallery will speak for itself. It will be a secret who pm's whom, and then when the gallery posts, we can see which ideas were the best used.

I think anyone who has re-conned an item, clothing, furniture, or whatever and written a tutorial and that inspires someone, they could choose to do that. We need to all be proud of our own crafty ideas. I may even write a tutorial myself. hmmmm???
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2009 05:03:56 PM »

  Ok, LC! That's a lot to take in, but I think I get the concept. Except I'm not sure there's a need for partners. I was thinking more of a pool of work, and we all pick one to make a project with, and post it as a suprise. They could PM the organizer which work, and which medium they are using. But, also, can have copies of as many as they like. Then, In the reveal stage, in the gallery, they Reveal whose work, invcluding a copy of the pattern used. If It was a recipe, then they post a photo of it, with thier comments.
I'm just not sure why or how a partner would be necessarry??? But, I do feel each contributor should be committed to one pattern, tutorial, etc., as well as one completed posted work. Just for the sake of communication, and accountability.
So you are saying the organizer would PM the works(Patterns, etc.) to the people requesting them? And with unlimited number of requests? That could be a lot of work for the organizer. Is there a simpler way to send tons of things to each person? Can't they just copy and paste it in thier own files, after it has been posted? Or is that not a feature built in the Craftster site? Still, I think your ideas are heading in the right direction!
Thanks, LC! Write that Tutorial, Please! You have about 2 months???
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2009 05:07:59 PM »

The issue is that we cannot post pdf files on here. We can only post an image facsimile. I would like the option of choosing up to 3 patterns, and no, the organizer doesn't have to send the files. The original pattern maker will email them to the people requesting them. Then they can pm you which one they are going to do.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2009 06:48:49 PM »

  So, it looks like you are the official Brains of this operation!!! LOL! Since you know how it all works!
Thanks, that's a great plan! It gives people some interactive responsibilities, and causes need for communication, as well as solving a technical dilemma!
What ever would I do without you, LC?
Got any more brilliant ideas?
So, then the reason they make a claim is to post which ones they want, instead of all 1000 PM's for the organizer to sort out.
However, I think there should be a limit of say, 10 claims per person,(Just throwing out a number) since it is time consuming to send all that stuff. If one person ends up with everyone liking thier pattern, do you think we should limit how many people can claim it? There has to be some checks and balances, to keep one person from being slammed, with too many e-mails to return.
Feedback??? Any variations of how this could work???
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2009 07:43:51 PM »

i understand everyone's concern with receiving a lot of email, but doing it this way makes it harder to send it.   Cheesy  Maybe we if there is a lot of interest, we could put everyone into to groups of say 8 and then everyone in that group sends to everyone else.  The sender then puts up small pictures of their patterns in the gallery.  That way, if anyone from another group wants a pattern or recipe then they can pm that person.  Then we make something from one pattern we get.
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2009 08:04:05 PM »

I like that idea of groups, especially if this turns into a large swap. And, if someone really wants a certain design, then it would be a simple matter to oblige. I thought about that too.
Good idea, KC!
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2009 08:40:47 AM »

I don't care that much about groups.

Say we post our patterns, ideas in the discussion. When a member posts they can also modify their own post. Say I have 3 ideas/patterns. Each can be claimed 3 times. I modify my post after each claim (sent to me in a PM) that is has 1 2 or 3 claims.

That way more work is on us than organizer.

When signups close, we pm the organizer who has claimed our stuff, If you dont have 3 claims on each, that is ok, but when the gallery comes around the rest of us find out who did what from whose idea.

I just think that is simpler than trying to group.

Gotta get ready for work, will check back Tue morning to see what everyone comes up with.
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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2009 10:16:16 AM »

That sort of turns things into a 'shop the swap' sort of thing and that doesn't really appeal to me.  It actually limits the number of patterns you can get and since this costs us nothing to ship that kind of limit is really irrelevant.  Plus if we ask questions about crafts you do or want to do, I don't think it would be that difficult to group people. 
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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2009 02:49:38 PM »

  I just don't really want to limit the number of designs a person can recieve.
1) I feel that everyone should have access to as many as they wish, but should specify which they are interested in  a list, say after a certain date. Each item, pattern, etc, is given a design #. That way the member PM's the organizer like this:
KLKING, Please send me copies of #'s 2, 5, 8, 12, 30 and 31
2)I think that there should be an initial sign-up period, where everyone just registers thier name, and what type of work they will contribute.
3) Then, we open up the gallery thread,for posting our patterns, etc.There would be a closing date on this.
4) As people respond to designs, they keep a list, being posted in the discussion thread under thier own post, which they then edit as they go. This will give everyone a sense of what's going to be didtributed, and the owner of the work can forward thier patterns as we go, and not necessarilly have to do it all at once.
**The organizer would first PM a list of e-mail addresses to everyone signed up.
5)Then there would be an opening and closing date for the finished work gallery. That way, the work is separated from the design phase.
6) All the designs posted in the prior  gallery  thread would be available by the general membership population, however they will not recieve private e-mails; Reqests for these could be given a minimum date, to encourage participation, and they would have to wait, Say: 30 days till swap closed, or not recieve them. And then it would be at the owner's discression if he/she wanted to respond.
However, they still could copy the items by hand, or electronically if site program allows.
7)As an added bonus, there could be a poll taken, and a prize offered,for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. place of finished work. I would be willing to provide something I craft as prizes. A mailed prize would then be sent. It would be something small, like a token award banner commemorating the "Mail-Free-Swap", Or maybe something else. Those prizes would be posted at the time the polling began.
8)This way, we don't have groups, and we don't have limits. But, we can also post as many finished works as we choose, or are capable of  entering in the final contest.
9)My Final thought is:  I think the organizer should PM each individual with the # of copies of thier work, and to whom it is to be sent. The recipient would track the items they recieve by marking recieved on thier Discussion post, as well as PM the organizer, to keep track of them.A simple graph chart would make this feasible for the organizer.  This would minimize the organizer's work. The whole swap would be simplified this way. I like to keep things simple, and let each person enjoy each other's offerings, to thier heart's content!
10) This is the way I had envisioned this swap, and I think the plan I've outlined will work, and also encourage people to join.
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