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« on: October 30, 2009 04:08:56 AM »

Hey, so this is my first attempt at sewing with a stretchy fabric (and I'm new to sewing) and it keeps getting sucked in and caught into the feed dogs. I made sure the foot pressure was on the lightest setting but other than that Im not sure what else I'm suppose to do... The machine used to be my mum's and I don't have the manual or alternative feed dogs - I do however have a trusty screwdriver that I have to keep using!!
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009 04:49:04 AM »

Are you doing a straight stitch or zigzag?

What type and size of needle are you using?

Are you getting thread wads on the underside or is the fabric just sinking down into the needle opening without these?

Make & model of machine?


Since I don't know tyhe answers to the above questions, I'm shooting in the dark.  Here are a variety of possible solutions- the right one will depend upon having further information.

If you are doing a SS, the put the SS foot and needle plate on your machine if you have them.  If not, stabilize the fabric. Strips of tissue papaer work for this- just tear away after you sew your seam.

If you are using too large of a needle or a blunt one that can push that fabric into the hole.  Also you may also need to hold onto the back edge of the fabric for the first few stitches.

If you are getting thread wads on the underside- then that is likely what is sucking your fabric "down under".

I think I post a link to this article way too often on this forum, but the same issue keeps coming up repeatedly, so here it is again:

Thread Nests, Wads, Bunches, Knots, Loops & Tangles Under the Fabric in the Bobbin Area- How to fix it
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009 05:08:41 AM »

Sorry I should have given more details... I'm basically using a test piece of fabric before I sew the real thing so I was starting with a straight stitch, then I was going to zig zag and I plan on using both of those stitches in the garment. I was using universal needle - it did say on the packet suitable for knitted and stretch fabric to be precise its 130R/705H size 11. I put a new one in.

My machine is a Janome Mystyle 28. I am getting thread wads on the underside of the fabric. In general before the getting caught in there and when the feed dogs are up they catch on the material a little. I threaded the machine the way I usually thread it and it wasnt a problem for cotton fabric so Im a little confused but I suppose I could be threading the bobbin wrong and I will look into that.

Thanks for the link... I have been googling and searching this forum for hours trying to find a solution, maybe I was using the wrong words or the wrong google! Damn google australia!
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009 09:53:24 AM »

...I am getting thread wads on the underside of the fabric.

Alright, then go the the page that I linked to earlier.  Read the page in its entirety first.  Then go through each trouble shooting step in the order given.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009 07:54:44 PM »

I have managed to stop it from getting thread wads and being caught in general. Now its just skipping stiches occasionally. My local Janome dealer is ordering me the manual so hopefully that will give me more of a clue on the correct settings! Thanks for the help Sew-Classic.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2009 06:11:51 AM »

Use a "stretch" needle.

This type of needle has has slight ball point to the tip to help spread rather than cut the fibers (knits can 'run'), and the lower portion of the needle is offset so that the loop from the upper thread is brought in closer to the hook.

In the stitch formation process, the hook catches the loop of upper thread that forms behind the needle as it rises and wraps it around the bobbin and bobbin thread thereby forming a stitch.  With synthetic knits and stretch fabrics especially, there is less friction between the upper thread and the fibers of the fabric.  In such a case, the upper thread tends to slip back up with the needle rather than forming a nice sized loop for the hook to catch.  When the hook misses the loop, you get a skipped stitch.

The  stretch needle brings this loop closer to the hook and reduces skips stitches under these circumstances.  If you don't have a stretch needle handy, you can also use strips of tissue papaer to add friction to the process and just tear them away when you done.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009 03:05:57 AM »

I got some ballpoint needles when i went to the janome dealer and it still skipped... I guess I'll have to buy some tissue paper
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009 05:17:46 AM »

No, I didn't suggest a ball point needle (aka jersey) for your situation. This type does NOT have the offset scarf that brings the thread loop loser to the hook to prevent skipped stitches.  A ball point needle is just like a standard needle expect for the slight rounding of the point.  Stretch needles are different.   I suggest a stretch needle.  Since you don't have one, then the tissue paper would be the way to go.

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This type of needle has has slight ball point to the tip to help spread rather than cut the fibers (knits can 'run'), and the lower portion of the needle is offset so that the loop from the upper thread is brought in closer to the hook.
In the stitch formation process, the hook catches the loop of upper thread that forms behind the needle as it rises and wraps it around the bobbin and bobbin thread thereby forming a stitch.  With synthetic knits and stretch fabrics especially, there is less friction between the upper thread and the fibers of the fabric.  In such a case, the upper thread tends to slip back up with the needle rather than forming a nice sized loop for the hook to catch.  When the hook misses the loop, you get a skipped stitch.

The  stretch needle brings this loop closer to the hook and reduces skips stitches under these circumstances.  If you don't have a stretch needle handy, you can also use strips of tissue papaer to add friction to the process and just tear them away when you done

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