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DestinyA
« on: September 24, 2009 11:18:04 AM »

I have started to design and put together my halloween costume, which I am loosely terming "neo victorian". I'm borrowing from several fashion timelines so there is no real historical period to reference directly.

I'm doing fine on the gown and such, but I have no idea what the tall stiff pleated collar that I've designed for the shrug is called, so I'm not able to find anything online about how to start construction. Does anyone know what it's called? If not, how would you go about making it stand up? I plan to use a very stiff interfacing, but I'm wondering if that will be enough, or if it will just flop over. Should I perhaps use a wire armature? Thanks for any advice. I love looking at photos of the period costume construction so many of you have done.

Sorry for the bad photo quality; I took pictures of my sketchbook with my phone.




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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2009 11:34:58 AM »

I don't know what the term is either.  You could try stiff interfaceing, but I'm wondering if it were to develope any creases if that would kill the stand up on it, kwim.  You might want to consider some lightweight boning to help stabalize it, maybe in 3-4 places around the collar.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2009 12:05:36 PM »

http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=319658.0

This thread should help you.  Read it all through, there is a tute at the bottom.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2009 01:39:28 PM »

Thank you! I also found some more information. I discovered that some kinds of Elizabethan Ruffs are similar to what I want, and I think combining the tute you linked to and the following one I can make what I have pictured:

http://www.farthingales.on.ca/elizabethan_wired_ruff.html

 I also found that if you search for Elizabethan collar rather than ruff, you get a boatload of links about the collars used for animals after surgery. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2009 01:46:03 PM »


 I also found that if you search for Elizabethan collar rather than ruff, you get a boatload of links about the collars used for animals after surgery. Tongue



XDDDDD Poor little things!  Those collars work very well for their protection, but apart from the discomfort they find it humiliating that some stupid people choose to pick on them for wearing those.  Still, it's great for stopping them from scratching and making it worse -or sometimes the reverse, to stop them from biting in a certain place to scratch themselves.

Now... if you find a well sized collar of that type (think bob-tail) and cut it to the desired shape and then line it with batting and the desired fabric... wouldn't they make nice upstanding collars and other interesting items?
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009 02:07:10 PM »

More ruff stuff:  http://www.renaissancetailor.com/demos_ruffs.htm

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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009 01:26:24 PM »

Thanks all for your suggestions! I really appreciate it.  Cheesy
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