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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009 07:56:37 AM »

I think points swaps can be difficut...I know was one of those people who were disappointed once.  But it's just the way it is sometimes I guess.  I tend to make too much and spoil too much.

I like the super large idea.  Like I would love a knitted vest I saw a pattern for & I would even buy the yarn myself (since I can't knit) but I haven't bothered to ask because I expect it would take waaaay too much work to be counted as a large.  Or I could put together a quilt, but even a tied quilt can take way more than 3 hours of effort.

I might pitch a super large swap as a theme idea.  Smiley 

I love the idea of a super large swap!  I like making very very large projects Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009 03:44:50 PM »

I'm very interested in hearing the pro's too!  I have joined a couple of swaps that used the points system, but quite honestly, I just made a large, medium and small with extra's and counted it good! Cheesy 

I tend to not join swaps that use the points system as I just don't like it for the reasons that rackycoo stated.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2009 07:49:29 AM »

I'm not a fan of the point system and have purposely not joined swaps because of it. They seem really unfair to me. It becomes more about the points and less about having fun and the actual craft.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2009 11:32:00 AM »

I'm kind of intimidated by large items for some reason, but I've solved it by asking my partner if they're okay with two mediums or something like that instead. It's not as if you are hunted down and spanked if you don't do exactly the sizes in the swap guidelines as long as you make something equivalent. I don't get why it would be harder to be flexible in a "traditional" swap, but that's just me.

I don't like points swaps since I think it's better to work out the details with the partner if you don't like making larges/smalls/whatevers. If I got 5 small items in a 5-point swap I think I'd be a bit disappointed... I have joined point swaps if I've liked the idea enough, but it still feels strange to think that way.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2009 02:23:35 PM »

I have no important thoughts about the points system but that's because I don't seem to do any quick crafts, so a small or a 1 pt item generally takes me 3-4 hours anyway and a large or 3 pt item takes 20+ hours.  Perhaps I should take up construction paper bookmark making.   Wink

I feel this same way.  When I knit a dishcloth it takes about 3-4 hours...but I would consider that a small.  Some scarves that I've knitted have taken 15-20 hours to knit...

I guess I feel like swapping should always be about having fun and really sending something awesome to your partner.  I feel like in point swaps, that people get too hung up on the points.
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2009 02:38:56 PM »

i have always been vocally against the point system, and i stand by it

it has the potential to be extremely unfair, and its a poor fix to a problem that isnt really broken.

points ARE sizes, but with the added risk of someone making me 5 smalls for my large medium and small....i dont care if what i get is *as good* (which is hard to quatify) as what i sent, but i want to know that the person at least put the same effort as i did into it

i wont join a points swap, ever ever (unless it was a Disney swap, but even then, i woud sit out most likely) i have been tempted, but the more i think about it, the less the risk seems worth it
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009 01:40:35 AM »

hmmm
In the most swaps I have joined there was a point system but
they said e.g. 5 points, must be a large + medium, large+2small or medium+3 small so no 5 smalls ...
I think that's good Smiley

Also the system is a bit off, I think too, when I make a drawing, it can take a whole day but I will probably count it as a medium because it doesn't look like I worked on it a whole day (for people that don't draw that is Smiley)
Or when I make a bag, it can take a lot longer than 3 hours since I don't sew very fast ...
those terms are rather subjective.
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009 01:55:28 AM »

ok, but if they are saying that you have to use a "large+" method, HOW is that different than sizes

plus, its not only about the TIME it takes, all 3 factors should come into play

a drawing, it takes 12 hours to complete, but costs less than 2 dollars and is something you do alot...thats a medium to me too

if you still use the large/medium/small qualifiers, then the points mean nothing....
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009 05:05:28 AM »

Also the system is a bit off, I think too, when I make a drawing, it can take a whole day but I will probably count it as a medium because it doesn't look like I worked on it a whole day (for people that don't draw that is Smiley)
Or when I make a bag, it can take a lot longer than 3 hours since I don't sew very fast ...
those terms are rather subjective.

Yep.  Both systems (size and points) are totally subjective.
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2009 09:59:19 AM »

I avoid the point swaps because they seem vague on the requirements.

If the swap says one large and one small - I know the swap is planned to be two different sized items.

If the swap says 4 points - it could be 4 smalls, or 2 mediums, or 1 medium/2 smalls, or 1 large/1 small - so that's 2 to 4 items of the same or different sizes. That's a lot 'vaguer' (is that a word?) than one large & one small.

I can decide if I can do a 2 item swap for the theme & send by date even if I don't know the partner. I have a lot more trouble deciding if I can do a 2 -4 item swap.

5 points seem to be a common size - to me, a 5 point swap seems much bigger than "1 large & 1 medium" probably because of how many combinations of items are in 5 (or 6) points. 
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