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SpinningNickel
« on: June 16, 2009 04:23:43 AM »

Pattern for deep V crochet top (am making small size, what is in bold is how far I've gotten):

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BACK
**Ribbing: With smaller hook, ch 11.
Foundation row: (RS). 1 sc in 2nd ch from hook. 1 sc in each ch to end of ch. Turn. 10 sc.
Next row: Ch 1. Working through back loops only, 1 sc in each sc to end of row.
Rep last row until work when slightly stretched measures 16 (18-19-22-27- 31) ins [40.5 (45.5-48-56-68.5- 78.5) cm], ending with a WS row. Do not fasten off.
Body: With RS facing, working along side of Ribbing, change to larger hook and proceed as follows:
1st row: Ch 2. Work 46 (50-54-60- 70-80) hdc evenly along side of ribbing. Turn.
2nd row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.**
Rep last row 14 (14-16-16-18-18) times more, ending with a WS row.

Shape sleeves: 1st row: Ch 2. 2 hdc in first hdc. 1 hdc in each hdc to last hdc. 2 hdc in last hdc. 48 (52-56-62- 72-82) hdc.
2nd row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row.
Rep last 2 rows twice more. 52 (56-60- 66-76-86) hdc. Place markers at each end of last row.
Next row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
Rep last row 11 (11-11-13-13-13) times more. Fasten off.
FRONT
Work from ** to ** as given for Back.
Divide for Front: 1st row: (RS). Ch 2. 1 hdc in each of first 18 (20-22-25-30- 35) hdc. Hdc2tog over next 2 hdc (neck edge). Turn. Leave rem sts unworked. 19 (21-23-26-31-36) sts.
Work 3 rows even.
5th row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc. Hdc2tog over last 2 hdc. Turn.
Work 3 rows even.
Rep last 4 rows 1 (1-1-1-2-2) time(s) more. 17 (19-21-24-28-33) sts.
Sizes XS/S, M, 2/3XL and 4/5XL only: 1st row: (RS). Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc. Hdc2tog over last 2 sts. Turn.
2nd and alt rows: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each st to end of row. Turn.
Shape sleeve: 3rd row: Ch 2. 2 hdc in first hdc. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
5th row: Ch 2. 2 hdc in first hdc. 1 hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc. Hdc2tog over last 2 sts. Turn.
7th row: As 3rd row. Place marker at beg of row.
9th row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc. Hdc2tog over last 2 sts. Turn. Work 3 rows even.
Sizes L and XL only: 1st row: (RS). Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc. Hdc2tog over last 2 sts. Turn.
2nd and alt rows: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each st to end of row. Turn.
3rd row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each st to end of row. Turn.
Shape sleeve: 5th row: Ch 2. 2 hdc in first hdc. 1 hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc. Hdc2tog over last 2 sts. Turn.
7th row: Ch 2. 2 hdc in first hdc. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
9th row: As 5th row.
11th row: As 3rd row.
13th row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc. Hdc2tog over last 2 sts. Turn.
Work 3 rows even.
All sizes: Rep last 4 rows 1 (1-1-1-2-2) time(s) more, then 9th row 1 (1-0-1-0-0) time more. 15 (17-19-21-26-31) sts.
Work 3 (3-3-1-3-1) row(s) even. Fasten off.
With RS facing, miss next 6 hdc. Join yarn with sl st to next hdc.
1st row: Ch 2. Hdc2tog over first 2 sts. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
Work 3 rows even.
Rep last 4 rows 2 (2-2-2-3-3) times more. 17 (19-21-24-28-33) sts.
Sizes XS/S, M, 2/3XL and 4/5XL only: 1st row: (RS). Ch 2. Hdc2tog over first 2 sts. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
2nd and alt rows: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each st to end of row. Turn.
Shape sleeve: 3rd row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to last hdc. 2 hdc in last hdc. Turn.
5th row: Ch 2. Hdc2tog over first 2 sts. 1 hdc in each hdc to last hdc. 2 hdc in last hdc. Turn.
7th row: As 3rd row. Place marker at end of row.
9th row: Ch 2. Hdc2tog over first 2 sts. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
Work 3 rows even.
Sizes L and XL only: 1st row: (RS). Ch 2. Hdc2tog over first 2 sts. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
2nd and alt rows: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each st to end of row. Turn.
3rd row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each st to end of row. Turn.
Shape sleeve: 5th row: Ch 2. Hdc2tog over first 2 sts. 1 hdc in each hdc to last hdc. 2 hdc in last hdc. Turn.
7th row: Ch 2. 1 hdc in each hdc to last hdc. 2 hdc in last hdc. Turn.
9th row: As 5th row.
11th row: As 3rd row.
13th row: Ch 2. Hdc2tog over first 2 sts. 1 hdc in each hdc to end of row. Turn.
Work 3 rows even.
All sizes: Rep last 4 rows 1 (1-1-1-2- 2) time(s) more, then 9th row 1 (1-0-1- 0-0) time more. 15 (17-19-21-26- 31) sts.
Work 3 (3-1-3-1-1) row(s) even. Fasten off.
FINISHING
Sew shoulder seams.
Front Band: With RS facing and smaller hook, join yarn to first missed st at center front.
1st row: Ch 1. Work 7 sc evenly across missed sts. Turn.
2nd row: Ch 1. Working through back loops only, 1 sc in each sc to end of row.
Rep last row until work when stretched fits around fronts opening and neck edge, sewing in place as you work. Fasten off.
Sew last row to missed sts on WS.
With WS tog, sew sides from markers to bottom.
Armhole edging: Join yarn with sl st to side seam. Ch 1. Work 1 row of sc evenly around armhole opening. Join with sl st to first sc. Fasten off.

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I've done the "back," and unstretched, it measures about 13 (length along ribbing) by 10.5 inches. That can't be right, can it? Or is the "shaping sleeves" bit going to carry on upward and add quite a lot of length to it?

Also, I didn't initially do a full 46 hdc along the ribbing, because I ran out of ribbing slightly early (I was working off the 16 in. measurement, I think I did about 43 hdc or something); was I supposed to carry on somehow? Because in the picture (below), it looks like the body overhangs the ribbing slightly. If so, how do I do this? By chaining a few extra, turning, and hdc into those extra?

Is this meant to be one piece? It LOOKS as if I start completely over with a second piece when it comes to the front, but I only see an instruction to sew the shoulder seams (which I assume means the underside of them) and to connect the front V... so how does this work?

Pic of what I'm trying to get:
http://www.bernat.com/data/pattern/pdf/Bernat_Bambooweb1_cr_top.en_US.pdf

I know I must seem like a complete idiot here! I've been crocheting on and off for a few years, but I never took off with it and this is my first proper project, so although I've figured out abbreviations/stitches/etc., I can't comprehend how it's meant to come together!! I've done one ball of yarn now, and I don't -particularly- want to unravel the whole blasted thing, but I'm a perfectionist, so if I've totally messed it up and need to, well, lessons learned and all that. Thanks so much for any help you folks can provide!

-Kel
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boogiedu
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009 08:28:48 AM »

first and foremost, did you do a gauge swatch?
if you don't get the gauge that's given it won't fit.

secondly, whenever i work a garment that has single crochet through the back loop ribbing i work twice the number of ribbing rows that the first row of the body stitches have.
example:
this pattern calles for 46 stitches on the first body row.
i work 92 rows of ribbing


i then put  my body stitches in the valley of the ribbing [ ribbing stitches have peaks and valleys,one row is a peak and the next row is a valley, these are my terms for what the ribbing rows look like]
this way i will have the correct number of stitches for the start of the body.


other people may do it differently, but this is how i get the body to fit the ribbing.


your side seams are where it says
With WS tog, sew sides from markers to bottom
in the finishing section
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SpinningNickel
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009 12:05:06 AM »

your side seams are where it says
With WS tog, sew sides from markers to bottom
in the finishing section

Huh. I missed that entirely. >> Cheers!

I did do a gauge and it was ok, but I'm having to start over anyway (went to my usual supplier for more yarn to find the colour I started in has been discontinued; I'd only bought a practice ball the first time.) So, maybe the second (third, fourth? I've unraveled it so many times!) time will be the charm.

But chaining that many in the ribbing surely will come out to more than 16 inches, which... Is that not as important as getting the right amount of stitches?
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009 07:12:26 PM »

chaining that many in the ribbing surely will come out to more than 16 inches, which... Is that not as important as getting the right amount of stitches?

what is important is that it fits.

the J hook is what thay recommend for the ribbing.
you can use a smaller or larger hook for that matter if you want.

it's not the chaining that is a lot [only 11 chain with 10 single crochets per row], it is the rows.

if you want you could put a stitch in each end of the ribbing rows which would make it 46 rows.

i just gave you a suggestion as to how i would do it. and i would change my  hook size until i had the number of rows i decided on when slightly stretched would fit me from one side seam to the other. i would check this by holding the ribbing to my side and bring it around my front to my other side and see if it fits.

when i looked at the picture i counted at least 50 rows of ribbing for the front. what the size of the pictured garment is i don't know. regardless, you're looking at quite a lot of rows for the ribbing.

and imho, from what i see in the picture the ribbing rows are not slightly stretched, they look to be stretched as far as they can be stretched.
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