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« on: March 12, 2011 12:28:51 PM »

Hi Soap geniuses,

So all kinds of weird things happened while I was mixing up my latest soap batch today.  First of all, I couldn't find palm oil anywhere in town.  I bought Grapeseed oil to sub, and realized after I got home that Grapeseed shouldn't be one of the main oils.  I adjusted the recipe on MMS, ok.  But then at the last minute (not a good idea, I know), I added a little extra essential oil (my scents are never strong enough!).  Anyway, I can't wait the 24 hours to see if this works!  Would anybody be willing to look at the recipe I used and see if there are any glaring issues?  I know it's too late now (they're in the molds) but the suspense is killing me!

15 oz olive oil
13 oz coconut oil
5 oz grapeseed oil
5.5 oz lard
5.2 oz castor oil
2.75 oz essential oil (lavender and rose blend)
14 oz water
6.2 oz lye
2 tbls alkanet powder at trace

I know the alkanet powder can be an issue, but I wanted to try adding the powder straight to the batch instead of infusion..  the batch looked ok as I was mixing it together, the essential oils were a little hard to blend in though.  anyway, does this look ok?  I covered the molds, insulated them with a blanket, and put the whole thing in a cooler to sit overnight.

Thanks in advance soap fortune tellers!
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011 02:49:25 PM »

Everything looks pretty good to me except that's kind of a high amount of castor oil, anything over 5% can make your soap soft and that looks like almost 12%, so it might need a bit longer in the mold before you cut it and/or longer to cure before it's ready to use. And grapeseed goes rancid fairly quickly, so you might want to try to use this batch up and not keep it around too long.

Tallow or vegetable shortening is a great sub for palm oil, (and shortening is easy to find plus cheap!) I've completely stopped using palm and use shortening now!
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2011 03:54:51 PM »

so I made a soft rancid batch of soap  Huh  Haha, ok, thanks Maremare!  You're a genius as always Smiley

I found out about the shortening substitution after I spent $8 on grapeseed oil that's going to rot Wink
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011 05:23:43 PM »

so I made a soft rancid batch of soap  Huh  Haha, ok, thanks Maremare!  You're a genius as always Smiley

I found out about the shortening substitution after I spent $8 on grapeseed oil that's going to rot Wink


lol! Naw, just a tiny bit soft and possibly a tiny bit shorter shelf life than usual. Grapeseed makes nice lotion!

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2011 08:59:06 PM »

Grapeseed oil can speed up trace too. Your recipe looks fine with the exception of castor like MareMare said.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011 06:51:18 AM »

Thanks so much Lique!  I'm going to unmold at 5 tonight (it'll be 27 hours in the mold, I hope that's long enough)..  Next time I'm thinking shortening, coconut oil, and olive oil in a large percentage and castor oil, grapeseed oil, and maybe shea butter in much smaller quantities.
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