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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009 11:55:34 AM »

In response to cinnamon usage in soaps. I've used cinnamon out of the kitchen cupboard - in other words the spice not the EO in a MP soap and it was great- no stinging. Can't say exactly how much I used- enough that it turned a delicious brown- it also had oatmeal in it. I supose with the spice and not the EO the dose was much lower. I'm going to have to try it with the CP next batch. It made a nice speckled bar and with the oatmeal it was a great winter bath bar.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2009 10:47:55 PM »

I love ground cinnamon in my CP soaps! It doesn't really sniff like cinnamon but it's just slightly abrasive and a gorgeous color! It's great for FOs or EOs that will turn brown in CP since it's going to end up brown anyway.

I also have done a gorgeous swirl with ground cinnamon putting the vanilla scent in the swirl part.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009 11:34:47 PM »

Gosh, I didn't realize this thread existed when I posted my other question.  Silly me.  Anyway, I most likely won't use EO for my personal products, but if I were to make them as gifts, I would want them to smell nicely.  Where can I buy EOs?  I would prefer a brick and mortar store, as opposed to an online retailer.  I like to see, touch, smell, etc. before I buy.  Thanks!

Oh, and I live in Southern California...if that matters.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009 11:50:43 PM »

You can find some eo's in health food stores. The reason most of us prefer to buy online is price...once you find an eo you like, they are pretty similar every time. 1/4 ounce of something at the health food store might be the same price I pay for 8 ounces online, no kidding!

Some nice staples to have: Orange, lemon, lime, grapefruit, peppermint, spearmint, wintergreen, cinnamon, cloves, lemongrass, eucalyptus, patchouli. Ok, I'm a fragrance nerd!
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009 12:32:32 AM »

Hey guys, I pretty much never recommend an ebay seller for suppliers, I had several bad experiences with various ones when I first started out. But! I have been buying peppermint EO from this ebay store for a long time, and I just now noticed that they have a nice variety of other eo's, including lavender at an amazing price. Also a 10 day return policy, which you don't get from most ebay sellers. It looks like they ship in plastic, so you would need to transfer to glass, but half the sellers out there do that anyways.

http://stores.ebay.com/wfmed
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009 09:15:51 AM »

You can find some eo's in health food stores. The reason most of us prefer to buy online is price...once you find an eo you like, they are pretty similar every time. 1/4 ounce of something at the health food store might be the same price I pay for 8 ounces online, no kidding!

Some nice staples to have: Orange, lemon, lime, grapefruit, peppermint, spearmint, wintergreen, cinnamon, cloves, lemongrass, eucalyptus, patchouli. Ok, I'm a fragrance nerd!

Ok. 2 cents:
I really really really hope that the wintergreen you're talking about is not an essential oil. Wintergreen essential oil smells delicious, yes, but it is NOT SAFE. The main constituent of the oil, that gives it that wintergreeny fragrance, can cause severe liver damage, even if you don't notice any ill effects.

http://www.aromaticsage.com/poison.htm

I am not trying to fearmonger or anything here. Using wintergreen-containing pain balms every so often is probably ok, for example. I used to use it myself before I read up on it. But it is one of the oils home users are strongly recommended to avoid.

Others to avoid include (not that you would want most of these for their scent):
Bitter almond
Calamus
Yellow Camphor
Horseradish
Mugwort
Mustard
Pennyroyal
Rue
Sassafras
Savin
Southernwood
Tansy
Thuja
Wormwood.

Anyone using essential oils in B&B should also be careful about photosensitizing oils used in products left on the skin, like lotions. Most notably citrus oils (bergamot, lemon, lime, tangerine, etc) shouldn't be left on the skin if you're going to be in the sun later, because it increases your risk of burns. (Note that the oil itself doesn't cause the burns, it just increases your susceptibility to UV rays.)
http://aromatherapy.suite101.com/article.cfm/photo_toxic_essential_oils

Essential oils are great, and I use them every day, but you have to be careful careful careful with some of them!
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2009 11:07:06 AM »

Wintergreen EO is very dangerous if INGESTED in excessive amounts. Or -- possibly -- if you are pouring the bottle of EO directly on your skin every morning. Neither are things I suggest doing!

When it comes to bath products, you are using such a small amount, it is virtually safe.

As I've always said before to everyone: please do your research. There is a lot of good and bad information available on the web and in books. Just remember to research and go with what you feel is the best option for you. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2009 02:55:07 PM »

I think my big concerns here are twofold:
One, when you make b&b products, you are exposed to the oils in much higher concentrations than if you just use the products. (fumes, spills, etc.)
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Two, a lot of people new to b&b or to essential oil use might not really know what constitutes an excessive amount. Especially when the appropriate amount varies based on the oil. I have read that the biggest safe amount of wintergreen in a leave-on b&b product meant to be used regularly is 0.4%. That is -extremely- little. It's not even a whole percent. And I remember being a young crafter first making my own products, when all I wanted was for them to smell stronger stronger stronger.

It may be an okay oil for a knowledgeable and experienced formulator to use with great caution, but I feel that putting it in the hands of a beginner would be irresponsible. Especially when time after time I've read that it is unsafe and should never be used at all.

Methyl salicylate, which makes up about 98% of Wintergreen oil, is extremely harmful in high doses and there are documented cases where it has been lethal, even in dermal applications. (For example: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/19144600/ http://escholarship.org/uc/item/08327811#) Most of these cases are extreme, but they do demonstrate that, of all the essential oils you could choose to use, this one may not be the best bet. And anyone thinking of trying it should be aware before they make their choice.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2009 03:24:58 PM »

I encourage everyone to do their own research before they use ANY essential oil. Personally I have only used wintergreen essential oil in soap, which is not a leave-on product.
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009 09:05:36 AM »

Do you think that an Orange Valencia (sp?) EO will hold up well in CPOP? If not, do you know what I could mix it with to help it last?
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