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« on: January 29, 2009 12:51:35 AM »

so i decided i'd give knitting a second chance.. (in the past i've only ever done the most basic hats and scarves) and started making an urchin hat from knitty yesterday. so i got to the end of the first wedge and got a little confused by what the pattern meant in the 6th, 7th, and 8th row because it doesn't seem to follow with how it looks in the picture... so here's the part of the pattern..

"There are 5 wrapped sts on the wider side of the wedge; this edge will form part of the hat brim. There are 8[9, 10] wrapped sts on the narrower side of the wedge.

Row 6 [WS]: K to end.

Row 7 [RS]: K all sts.

Row 8 [WS]: Sl 1, k to end."

sooo i already knitted what i thought it meant so ill just tell you what i did and you can tell me if i'm wrong...
so after row #5 there are about 5 or 6 (i forget exactly how many now but i think its irrelevant at this point) sts that are in the row that are not wrapped sts, and then on one side of those there are 9 wrapped sts and 5 wrapped sts on the other. so in row 6 i knitted all the way to the end of the needle including the wrapped sts. then for row 7 knitted all the way to the other end including all wrapped sts and same for row 8, except for the slip stitch at the end.

if i were to only reading it, it makes sense to me, so i guess the only reason i've been questioning myself was because in the picture it doesn't seem like that edge of the wedge has a whole 2 rows of knitting...

a little help would be greatly appreciated  Smiley thanks guys!
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2009 08:25:32 AM »

In the pdf version available through ravlery, the wording is a little different (possibly more helpful?)

Row 6: k across all sts, ignoring wraps.

Row 7 (WS): k across all sts, ignoring wraps.

Row 8 (RS): sl1, k to end

It looks to me like you did the right thing. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2009 07:44:15 PM »

well, actually, i would normally take "ignoring wraps" to mean not knitting them... which i did  Huh

oh well thanks for the help  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009 09:48:27 AM »

Ah. I took it to mean "don't pay any special attention to them, just treat them like normal stitches"
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009 10:52:12 AM »

Nope, `ignore sts' means leave 'em be for a while, we'll get back to them later. Well, sorta....
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009 09:23:47 PM »

well i hope you're right Soozeq, because i already undid the wedges that i already finished and fixed them that way!
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009 01:30:19 PM »

Hi, I also have a question about this pattern so hopefully I'm in the right place. 
I'm really confused in general so I'll just go through the whole process.

Row 1 [rs]: K to last 2 sts, W&T So: 1.) KNIT: knit to the last 2 sts, 2.) WRAP: bring the yarn forward, slip the next stitch, [second to last stitch], on your Left Needle onto your Right needle, bring the yarn to the back Do I slip the stitch back onto the Left needle? 3.) TURN because of how the stitch was wrapped, now I'm in a position to purl, but in order to knit on the next row I bring the yarn to the back and in effect wrap the same stitch again?
Row 2 [ws]: k to end
Row 3 [rs]: k to last st before wrapped st of previous row, W&T So, knit to the last 3 sts, W&T

Repeat these rows [2] times more.  [4] sts have been wrapped in total.

Row 4 [ws]: K to last 4 sts, W&T Got it, I'm now wrapping stitches on both ends of the wedge
Row 5: K to last st before wrapped st of previous row, W&T

Repeat this row 8 times more.  so does this mean that on the RS of the fabric I will be wrapping sts in addition to the 4 that have already been wrapped (in rows 2 and 3,) and on the WS that the one wrapped st of row 4 will now be added to. OR does this mean I will be wrapping stitches on both ends of the wedge for all right and wrong side rows for 8 rows?

There are 5 wrapped sts on the wider side of the wedge, there are [9] wrapped sts on the narrower side of the wedge
I don't get where these numbers come from  Huh
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009 07:41:51 PM »

Hi, I also have a question about this pattern so hopefully I'm in the right place. 
I'm really confused in general so I'll just go through the whole process.

Row 1 [rs]: K to last 2 sts, W&T So: 1.) KNIT: knit to the last 2 sts, 2.) WRAP: bring the yarn forward, slip the next stitch, [second to last stitch], on your Left Needle onto your Right needle, bring the yarn to the back Do I slip the stitch back onto the Left needle? 3.) TURN because of how the stitch was wrapped, now I'm in a position to purl, but in order to knit on the next row I bring the yarn to the back and in effect wrap the same stitch again?

You do slip the stitch back to the left, before or after turning the work, doesn't matter. Then you bring the yarn back again so you've wrapped all the way around that stitch. If you look down on the gap between the wrapped stitch the the stitches to be worked you'll see an X of yarn.

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Row 2 [ws]: k to end
Row 3 [rs]: k to last st before wrapped st of previous row, W&T So, knit to the last 3 sts, W&T

Repeat these rows [2] times more.  [4] sts have been wrapped in total.

Row 4 [ws]: K to last 4 sts, W&T Got it, I'm now wrapping stitches on both ends of the wedge
Row 5: K to last st before wrapped st of previous row, W&T

Repeat this row 8 times more.  so does this mean that on the RS of the fabric I will be wrapping sts in addition to the 4 that have already been wrapped (in rows 2 and 3,) and on the WS that the one wrapped st of row 4 will now be added to. OR does this mean I will be wrapping stitches on both ends of the wedge for all right and wrong side rows for 8 rows?

You wrap stitches at the end of the row every row rather than every other as you started with.

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There are 5 wrapped sts on the wider side of the wedge, there are [9] wrapped sts on the narrower side of the wedge
I don't get where these numbers come from  Huh

At the end of row 5 you have five wrapped stitches on the narrow end of the wedge, and one on the wide end. You then wrap the last stitch of every row for eight more rows, which adds four stitches to each side, leaving you with nine and five.

Clear as mud?
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2009 09:44:23 AM »

Ah HA!
Thanks!
I'll have to give this a try as soon as I can sit down with my yarn  Grin
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