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« on: January 21, 2009 03:41:40 PM »

So.. like so many others seem to have done, I spontaneously bought an old spinning wheel without really checking to see if it worked first. It was really cheap, so it was a low-risk purchase.

When I got it home, I cleaned it and de-rusted the rusty parts. Now, things are moving like they should, I am able to twist the yarn, but the yarn won't wind on. While I looked around for information, I noticed that a lot of the sources said  (and I quote) "the whorl on the bobbin should be smaller than the flyer whorl.  If it isn't, use the smaller end of the bobbin, or change the flyer whorl." So I checked, and it seems the whorl on my bobbin is actually larger than the flyer whorl:



There's nothing I can do about this. I can't use the other end of the bobbin, and both the flyer whorls that came with the wheel are the same (small) size. Does anyone else have wheels that work like this?

I'm wondering if some of the other parts of the wheel are supposed to make up for the size difference. Like these strange pegs, perhaps?



Here's an overview of the wheel, in case anyone recognizes it:


Any advice would be very much appreciated Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2009 06:25:17 AM »

That is a beautiful wheel!

I appears that you have a bobbin drive wheel (Irish Tension).  The peg is used to tension the brake band that goes from a stationary place on the frame, around the flyer whorl and then to the peg.  You adjust the brake band to slow the whorl so the bobbins spins at a different speed than the flyer to obtain take up
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2009 06:42:08 AM »

Does that have 2 flyers...? It looks somewhat similar to the one on this page (towards the middle of the page) http://www.geocities.com/possumjim/xhtml/spinning_flyer.html

http://www.spinningforth.com/pseudoblog/archive_6_07/archive_6_07.html

http://www.lowlandslegacy.com/photos.htm - bottom of the page

http://www.sawyerandsu.org/Su.html

I believe the pegs are for tension but I'm not sure of the answer to the flyer and bobbin whorl issue...
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009 07:08:12 AM »

I was wondering if it was a double flyer (or gossip) wheel also ...  best I can tell from last picture, it looks like it is.

Some folks believed this was used by two people (and so given the name 'gossip wheel', but it is suppose to be used by one person, spinning with both hands.

You could search the internet for 'Irish tension' or 'bobbin drive'.  I believe the earliest Louets were bobbin driven
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009 03:26:31 PM »

Thanks for your advice, everyone! I tried setting the wheel up to be bobbin drive. I used an old shoelace as drive band, and another as a brake. It doesn't run as smooth as the new and fancy wheels they had in spinning class, but it'll be great for practicing.

Here's a picture of how I set it up, in case anyone has the same problem:



Now, off make yarn Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009 05:54:43 AM »

looks like it would work.  You may get a smoother result if you use a smaller diameter string.
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