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geekella
« on: December 29, 2008 10:45:08 PM »

i just spun my first-ever yarn.

it is natural alpaca fiber. so it is a an overall gray color. i want to dye it. most likely a vibrant red and deep mauroon.

my question is: is it necessary to bleach the yarn first in order to get the best shades? or will it take to the color well


alos, i might change my mind and decide to do light colors. so in that case, would i need to bleach?
if so, id there a good website that has step-by-step instructions on what to do. or could u tell me?

thanks so much
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008 08:41:59 AM »

Grats on your first yarn Smiley

I would be hesitant to bleach it...the alpaca would probably be weakened. But I'm not an expert on it so that's just my guess.

http://www.thepiper.com/fiberart/koolaid/images/colorchart-high.jpg
That's a link for a Kool-Aid dye chart...it shows a white yarn and a gray-ish yarn and the effects of each Kool-Aid flavor on both. I thought it would at least help give you an idea of what colors you might expect when dyeing your gray alpaca.

I've seen some discussions about bleaching wool but not alpaca. Bleach will dissolve wool...but maybe hydrogen peroxide or something might not be quite as rough on the fiber.

I also just saw your other post about whether to dye before or after spinning...I think the answer is 'It depends' lol It depends on what effects you hope to achieve. There are many threads on dyeing roving and yarn. If you dye the roving first you will get slightly different 'looks' depending on how you draft it also.

I would suggest reading through the 'How do I dye X' and 'Dyeing Resource List' on this forum if you haven't already.
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geekella
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008 04:30:05 PM »

Grats on your first yarn Smiley

I would be hesitant to bleach it...the alpaca would probably be weakened. But I'm not an expert on it so that's just my guess.

http://www.thepiper.com/fiberart/koolaid/images/colorchart-high.jpg
That's a link for a Kool-Aid dye chart...it shows a white yarn and a gray-ish yarn and the effects of each Kool-Aid flavor on both. I thought it would at least help give you an idea of what colors you might expect when dyeing your gray alpaca.

I've seen some discussions about bleaching wool but not alpaca. Bleach will dissolve wool...but maybe hydrogen peroxide or something might not be quite as rough on the fiber.

I also just saw your other post about whether to dye before or after spinning...I think the answer is 'It depends' lol It depends on what effects you hope to achieve. There are many threads on dyeing roving and yarn. If you dye the roving first you will get slightly different 'looks' depending on how you draft it also.

I would suggest reading through the 'How do I dye X' and 'Dyeing Resource List' on this forum if you haven't already.

thanks so much! ur info was very helpful! much appreciated Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008 04:33:35 AM »

Pro Chemical has instructions for bleaching wool on their website http://www.prochemical.com/directions/Discharge%20PDF/Bleach%20wool%20with%20peroxide.pdf

First a warning though:  When I tried this, my wool came out "crunchy".  Not sure if it was the bleaching, or the wool came from a crap part of the fleece (I had processed this one myself) or both.  So try a test batch with some wool you are willing to ruin first Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008 02:54:41 PM »

If you use a bright red dye, it will turn out darker because of the natural gray.  I dyed some gray wool yesterday with cherry koolaid, and it turned out crimsony. 

If you do test wool, keep in mind that the alpaca might take the color differently, just because it's a different fiber.
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