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« on: October 16, 2008 03:47:58 PM »

I tried making my first cane & wasn't very happy with it, but decided to continue playing with it before smooshing it into the scrap clay pile.  I thought the cheetah looking pattern sheet it made up into was kinda cool, so I wrapped it around some scrap clay hearts & made these for my 14yo niece. 
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008 06:04:59 PM »

Ooh, nice!
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008 11:59:15 PM »

Yay for happy accidents!! hehe... i really like these, the pattern it's made it's really cool <3

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008 05:10:46 AM »

 Cheesy are Great!
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008 09:38:23 AM »

The finished hearts look great!  And the organic-looking pattern the cane slices made works well for covering.

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I tried making my first cane & wasn't very happy with it
 

What was it specifically that you weren't happy with?  Just the fact that the slices distorted, or the way the actual cane looked before slicing, or what?

Btw, hard to tell from a distance, but looks like the cane was a small black log surrounded by a large wrap of pink, then surrounded with a thin wrap of gray (which you then laid slices of, on top of a sheet of translucent or tinted transcluent??)    What kind-pattern of cane were you wanting to make?

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the cheetah looking pattern sheet it made up into was kinda cool, so I wrapped it around some scrap clay hearts

It's kinda hard to use a cane slice sheet or any pattern sheet as a whole to wrap around a surface that's not flat or cylindrical, etc. Shocked  That's probably what caused a lot of the slice distortion too. 

If you want to cover a non-flat or non-cylindrical/etc. bead again, you might want to try either of these techniques:  making a large ball with the base-colored clay, laying the slices on and rolling them in, then cooling the ball a bit before carefully creating the heart shape... or cutting the slices verrry thin, then applying each slice separately and rolling it in completely with a rod of some kind, before adding the next slice.  That last one will keep distortion to an absolute minimum, but the first one works pretty well too.  Or you could wrap the whole sheet around a large ball from the "front" side, bringing all the excess to the back where the pattern will get jumbled but won't show, then make the heart shape.

I like the flow-i-ness of the pattern you made a lot though!


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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008 04:04:44 PM »

I think you nailed it with your guess on the cane composition.  It was fine as a bullseye cane, but I thought I'd try a flower cane using the credit card method & really botched it up.  I decided to try and slice it using just a razor blade which smushed it even more, even though I was pulling the blade & quarter turning the cane after every slice.  I have since gotten a tissue blade which helps, but I need lots more practice.  Thanks for the tips on covering oddly shaped objects - the wrapping did distort the image even more, but like I said before, it turned out to be a happy accident.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2008 11:44:12 AM »

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I decided to try and slice it using just a razor blade which smushed it even more, even though I was pulling the blade & quarter turning the cane after every slice.  I have since gotten a tissue blade which helps, but I need lots more practice.

"Pulling" the blade??  If you mean that you were kind of making a long "stroke" while making the cut, you really don't have to do that if the cane is well prepared, even when using a single-edge razor blade.  I never do.  The main thing is that the cane be as stiff as possible before making the cut (as well as using a sharp, thin, clean  blade).   Especially if you're using a soft clay like Sculpey III, or even FimoSoft, and perhaps even Premo, you'll want to let the cane "rest" at least a few hours (or overnight) before cutting it for best results, or at least cool it awhile in the frig or freezer to firm it up. 
It's hard to wait that long, I know!, so many clayers have learned the right "english" and materials to use while cutting which can make up for the lack of complete firmness, but even then, they'll save as much of the cane as possible for slicing later.
(If you haven't checked out the tips on slicing canes successfully at my site, they're on this page:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/Canes--general.htm
...click on Cutting Canes...)


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I think you nailed it with your guess on the cane composition.  It was fine as a bullseye cane, but I thought I'd try a flower cane using the credit card method & really botched it up.

It started out as a bullseye cane?  But the center log was so tiny... did the cane somehow get changed enough to make that happen, or did you start out with a tiny center log?

As for the credit card method for making a flower cane, making sure the cane is relatively firm before you start if using a soft clay will help a lot if you didn't do that.  Also, a credit card may have been too thick if the cane you were making was a small diameter when you tried to make the indentions. 
 
If you want to make posey-like flower canes, I'd suggest you just go ahead and use the regular method anyway**:
... create a "petal" cane first (a round cane --a bullseye cane perhaps, iow a large log covered by thin wrap)
...press along one side of the cane lengthwise to taper the round bullseye cane into a shape more like a leaf cane
...cut the petal cane into 4-6 or more segments
...place the segments around a small log (tapered ends toward the log) that's a different color than the petal cane's wrap
...fill in the areas between the top of the petals with small triangular logs of background color, if you want to keep the petals separated from each other at their tops
...add a final wrap of background-color around everything 

**I may have explained them better in this previous post re "easier" canes to start with

Here's one visual lesson for doing a flower cane that way, but the same basic technique can be used to make all kinds of radial-type flowers with quite complex looks by just varying things like the petal cane itself, or the number or shape of petals used, etc.:
http://www.tooaquarius.com/learn/tutorials/six-petal-flower-cane (in this case, just forget the Skinner blend and the two inserted "veins," and follow the rest of the lesson)

And here's another way that's a little less precise:
http://www.geocities.com/turkeymama/UPCG/tutorialpics/flowerwithgraphics.html (ignore the fact that she's using translucent and opaque clay for a special effect, and just use regular colors of your choice)


You also might have fun making a "chrysanthemum" cane, which was the original flower cane made with a credit card to indent. For that one you'll want to start with a spiral cane though (reasonably fat in diameter), and also make sure the indentions get pushed almost all the way to the center for the strongest effect:
lesson: http://www.pcpolyzine.com/2000december/chrysanthemum.html (ignore all the scraps she puts on the top sheet... just use two or more sheets, then roll up into a spiral cane)
more examples:
http://www.kerstinsfimoseite.de/Kerstin/Sonstiges/Vasen/vase01.jpg
http://www.kerstinsfimoseite.de/Kerstin/Sonstiges/Dosen/tin02.jpg
http://www.kerstinsfimoseite.de/Kerstin/Sonstiges/Dosen/elissatin.jpg
more tips on making chrysanthemum canes:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/canes--instructions.htm
(...click on Translucent & Opaque Canes, then scroll down several screenfuls to chrysanthemums)


Have fun!

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