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vysews
« on: March 02, 2005 06:45:44 AM »

I got some Kidsilk Haze on sale. Is anyone interested in knitting up this camisole and cowl neck with me? I anticipate I'll need the support since this is the firt thing I'm knitting that needs to be a certain size Roll Eyes

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2005 09:17:15 AM »

I bought my Douceur et Soie for the lacy cowl.  I'm in!
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2005 01:17:12 PM »

I'm in!  I have had this yarn for months waiting to do this cami.  The needles, however, were the problem.  I ordered them on Dec. 31 and got them YESTERDAY (Mar. 1)!! Unfortunately, the yarn shop didn't put my apartment number on them and they kept getting sent back.  So, I am set to go now!  I will be using Kidsilk Haze in Candygirl (a hot pinkish/magenta color). What colors are y'all using?
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2005 02:53:07 PM »

Yeah! I'm so excited to have partners in crime :-) My Kidsilk Haze is a medium gray color--I forget the exact name.

I tried knitting up some of the pattern stitch for a swatch and am learning that mohair is a nightmare to frog, especially in this stitch pattern. This is my first time working with mohair, so if you have tips, let me know. I did see a Knitty Gritty tip to put your mohair in the freezer for an hour to keep it from sticking together. Don't know that that would help if you're trying to frog though.

Anyhow, here's what I've decided to do--let me know if you think it's reasonable. In lieu of doing up a swatch, I'm just going to start right in on the cowl. I don't really think the finished size of that matters much, and I'll be able get my gauge from that. If I need to adjust needle size or whatever, I don't think it'll be all that noticeable on the cowl unless I'm way, way off to begin with. Then, I'll adjust the pattern for the tank to my gauge.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2005 04:22:13 PM »

I think your idea to do the cowl as a swatch is a great one...in fact, I think I'll do it that way, too!  I think it was Elizabeth Zimmerman, the knitting guru, who suggested making a hat or some small object first out of yarn you were intending to use for a sweater and to use it as a guage.  So I guess you have the mind of a knitting genius!
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2005 05:19:28 PM »

I bought the Douceur et Soie in a cheery shade of coral.  I presently am obsessed with just about anything orange or pink.  Coral--being both--is just too irresistable!  I bought both the yarn and needles at Stitches West, so I'm very excited to start on this project.

Anyone buy the DMC perle cotton yet for the trim?  It took me forever to realize it was embroidery floss!

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2005 05:56:59 PM »

I bought the Douceur et Soie in a cheery shade of coral.  I presently am obsessed with just about anything orange or pink.  Coral--being both--is just too irresistable!  I bought both the yarn and needles at Stitches West, so I'm very excited to start on this project.

Anyone buy the DMC perle cotton yet for the trim?  It took me forever to realize it was embroidery floss!



No, not yet. It took me awhile to realize what it was for--I might have misread the directions, but it didn't really make it explicit. I was going to see what it looked like after the knitting was done before deciding whether or not to do trim--it may look just fine without.

I can't wait to see your yarn. I love orange and pink too!
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2005 04:34:02 AM »

I bought my Douceur et Soie for the lacy cowl.  I'm in!

zzjulia, I hadn't seen this yarn before, so I searched for it on the net. It looks like the same composition as kidsilk haze, but the colors are more fun! Darn, I wish I'd seen that before! Oh well, I do like my gray color.

Have you all started yet? I began the cowl and love the lace pattern. Only thing is that once I start the camisole, I will probably modify row 3 of the lace pattern in the round. It starts out

K2, *yo, sl1, etc.*.

I think that first K2 just ends up leaving an area that is too obviously different from the rest of it. I'm not going to frog what I have (I've already mentioned how hard that is!), but when I do the camisole itself, I'll probably start row 3 right off with the yo, sl1, etc. when working in the round. It won't make a difference in the stitch count or anything (I don't think!) and when I tried it once, it looked better.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2005 04:03:03 PM »

I haven't started but hope to cast on for the cowl tonight or tomorrow morning.  ZZjulia, your coral color sounds perfect for summer.

I went to one of my LYSs and they were able to explain the whole DMC floss to me because it never says WHICH weight floss to use (I think it's the Pearl Cotton size 5...but I don't have it in front of me.) I still am not certain how to use it on the finished piece.  Anyway, I ordered the perfect shade and they called me back and said DMC wasn't making that color.  Despite all it's efforts, this cami WILL get made!  I hope to have some progress pics this weekend.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2005 04:13:14 PM »

It was Booglass here on the Craftster board raving about how she found a KidHaze sub!  The Douceur is marginally (like a buck) cheaper too.

I haven't started yet, because I am compulsively reading the pattern.  I had such a tough time trying to understand the brioche in the round pattern, that I am a bit nervous.  Thank goodness for you two--my partners in crime!

The DMC thing I figured out by finding the right weight (grams?) or yardage in the Herrschner's catalog (only one type of the DMC was listed as being the same).
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2005 06:04:42 PM »

Have you all started yet? I began the cowl and love the lace pattern. Only thing is that once I start the camisole, I will probably modify row 3 of the lace pattern in the round. It starts out

K2, *yo, sl1, etc.*.

I think that first K2 just ends up leaving an area that is too obviously different from the rest of it. I'm not going to frog what I have (I've already mentioned how hard that is!), but when I do the camisole itself, I'll probably start row 3 right off with the yo, sl1, etc. when working in the round. It won't make a difference in the stitch count or anything (I don't think!) and when I tried it once, it looked better.

A clarification of what I wrote above...since you are doing an extra yo, it will result in an added stitch on row 3. But because you'll drop that yo anyway on row 4, the net result is the same. Hope I didn't confuse anyone!  Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2005 09:01:29 PM »

After the SnBn capelet, I am grateful for all clarifications!!!
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2005 04:34:02 AM »

Are you guys interpreting the yarn requirements to mean what you need for just the camisole or for the camisole plus the cowl? I had thought it meant for both, but as I go along, I suspect that it's only enough for the camisole. Has anyone out there in forum land finished this project?--if so, can you comment about how much yarn you needed?
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2005 08:57:28 AM »

Yay!  I was only thinking about this the other day, as I couldn't decide whether to make this or Butterfly in Rowan 37, but this looks easier Smiley  I have my yarn, but I want to practice the stitch in some oddments first before I go whole hog, because of the mohair/frogging thing being evil Smiley

I was thinking that the yarn requirments would be for the cami and cowl together, too -  I heard one ball goes quite a long way?

I'm so glad other people are making this at the same time as me Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2005 11:07:54 AM »

I remember thinking the yardage being enough for both the cami and the cowl.  In any event, I decided to just do the cowl first because if the dyelot isn't the same and I need to buy more for the cami, it would be better to have all the same dyelot for the cami and it won't be too noticeable if the cowl is slightly off from the cami.  Actually considering you have to wear a tank under the cami anyway, it wouldn't probably be noticeable at all if the dyelots changed mid cami.

yarn photo since I have not started any actual knitting yet  Grin

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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2005 01:26:39 AM »

knittyboard had a discussion on this project, and here is a link to someone's gorgeous finished lacy cowl and cami:

http://photobucket.com/albums/v647/sewiknit/?
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2005 06:02:49 AM »

zzjulia, do you have the link to the knittyboard discussion? I couldn't find it.

I heard from glorianna that she made the smallest size and really did only need 2 balls, so that's reassuring. She told me, though, that she had trouble with the drape of the cowl and the boxiness of the tank itself, so we'll have to watch for that.
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2005 09:00:21 AM »

Well I just cast on, spent an hour knitting the first row (Addi Turbos and Kid Silk Haze do not go well together Sad  The stitches were slipping all over the place!), and then realised that I had one stitch too many at the end of the row  Angry  I think I must have missed a stitch somewhere, cos I cast on putting markers at every 25 stitches.  Poo!  Luckily I managed to frog most of it, but I'll have to scrap the cast on section because that is too meshed together to rip apart without, well, ripping it apart!

I think I'll have a rest and some dinner before I start again.  Or maybe I'll just cast on first... Cheesy  I have high hopes for this one though!

PS Thank you for the comment on my blog Vysews Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2005 07:36:01 PM »

Yes, those first few rows were not fun. But it goes much better after that, so don't despair!

I finished the cowl and made a lot of headway into the camisole itself. I got nervous that I was going to run out of yarn, so the cowl is only 10" instead of 12". Even with that, it took up the vast majority of one ball. I did run out and buy an extra ball so that I'd have the same dye lot, but if I don't end up having to use it, then that would save a little $.

I was off on the stitch gauge (not the row gauge, though), but coincidentally, the circumference of the cowl turned out to be the exact circumference I wanted for the camisole (chest measurement minus 2). So I decided not to sweat it. I'll make adjustments later when it comes to shaping the armhole and neck. I think I want to change up the neck to a scoopneck instead of a V-neck anyway. I just have to figure out how! Tongue

I've tried on what I have so far. The camisole is blocky, but the lace pattern is so stretchy that I hope blocking will help give it more of a shape. If I had enough skill, I'd take some stiches in for the waist. But I don't feel confident doing it with the pattern, and I'm trying to avoid any kind of frogging at all costs Smiley

I've been disregarding that first k2 on row 3 of the lace pattern in the round. While you can still see the "seam" at the beginning of the round, to me it's less obvious than when you do the k2.

Hope you all are having success!
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2005 12:26:44 AM »

Bought my DMC perle at Michael's today.  Luckily had a matching color (one left!!!)

Here is the knittyboard link:
http://knittyboard.com/viewtopic.php?p=52868#52868
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2005 04:12:38 PM »

Hoorah, hoorah, I'm almost done! My sweet hubby gave me plenty of knitting time this weekend. I added 2" of length to the main part of the camisole because all the of the tank tops I have that I could wear under it are 13" or 14" from the bottom edge to the armhole, not 12". That side "seam" is still pretty conspicuous, but it's probably the best I can do. Now, I'm going to have to learn how to do that crochet chain for the edges. I do have enough yarn left that I've decided to double up on the yarn and do the croceht chain with that, rather than with DMC.

Hopefully will have pics before too long.
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2005 03:07:55 PM »

Whew, I'm done! The finishing took a lot longer than I thought it would--mostly because I hadn't crocheted before and had to redo a few times before I got it to where I liked it. Anyhow, here is the finished product, with and without the cowl...

      http://soknitpicky.myblogsite.com/_photos/FluffyLace.jpg

It is very light yet soft and snuggly. I'm pleased with it. If I had it to do over, I'd probably make the cowl smaller and figure out something for that side "seam"
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2005 04:17:16 PM »

vysews, it looks beautiful!  gorgeous soft color and your cowl drapes perfectly.  It even looks great without the cowl.  Well done - it just looks waaaay better than mine did.  Smiley  Congrats on a project well done.
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2005 04:52:53 PM »

V - looks gorgeous! Great job!  That cowl will look fantastic under your coats too.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2005 12:25:45 PM »

That is fab work!  I've still only done a few rows on mine, because of work setting me back and being too tired to knit in the evening Sad  But you have inspired me to get going on it again!  Love the cowl too.  Can't wait to get it done now Cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2005 04:06:53 PM »

Thanks for the feedback, guys. I was excited to have made something that was sort of fitted (as opposed to shawls, scarves, purses, etc). I will be here to cheer you all on and can't wait to see your progress pics!
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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2005 12:19:55 AM »

Can anyone suggest an alternative to DMC Perle Cotton 5?  I'm having trouble finding it in the shops (most of them stock Anchor), and the UK internet sites aren't too good at showing the colour range, so unless I buy black to trim my cami, I will have problems finding a nice colour match for it Sad

Incidentally, I'm still going slowly on this, but it is moving quicker than the first row - I'm hoping to get a few inches done this weekend Cheesy  Also put an order in for some Denise Interchangables at the only UK place I can find who does them - hoorah!  Am all excited!  It means I don't have to hunt around for a smaller length for the cowl (for some reason a lot of shops only do 80cm length...  and shipping on one needle is stupid on the web)

[edit] Nevermind about the alternatives to DMC - I've managed to find somewhere that had a decent sample chart on it and ordered some.  Touch wood it will match the yarn...
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2005 07:30:35 PM »

B--if your DMC doesn't work out...I liked mine just fine using 2 strands of the kidsilk to crochet the edging. And good luck getting your Denise set---I really love mine. Can't wait to see progress pics!
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