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« on: October 03, 2008 04:50:30 PM »

in this issue of Paper Crafts magazine there was a full page add for

www.shophandmade.co m

when i have a little more time, i am going to set up my profile there, it looks really awesome! and there are no fees!!!
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008 10:39:31 AM »

have you tried it yet? i just stumbled upon it myself and was hoping to find someone whose done business there before I dive in.....
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008 10:43:25 AM »

no, not yet, but i will let this post know as soon as i am set up and how it goes
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2008 04:19:42 PM »

Is anyone using this website?

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I saw the link on myspace, it says its fee free.

Does anyone know anything about it?

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008 08:54:36 AM »

Bumping this to find out any and all opinions on this site!  I just found it myself and want to learn more!
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2008 04:35:03 PM »

I have a friend who has listed some of her stuff on there and already made a sale and got on the front page; I'll be setting up my shop later this weekend. I've already got a lot of the technical stuff done and I just need to list items...it looks like a pretty good site, the "catch" with listing for free is that there's a small ad on the page.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008 02:01:13 AM »

I singed up for a shophandmade.com site but the other day I noticed something that really turned me off.  You may notice that when you list an item and you view the main page of the website your item(s) will show up quite often in the featured product list. When I first noticed this I was very happy that my items would get this type of exposure, as Im sure most other sellers would. That was until I visited the site from another computer and noticed that my items suddenly were not showing up. I originally thought that maybe they just dropped out of the list over time as Etsy.com listings do. This was until I went back to my main computer and noticed that my items were always showing up on front page.

What I found out is that if you are logged into the site or your session is still active the site knows youre online and cycles your products through the main page for you to see giving you the impression that you are getting front page exposure of your products. However, if you are not logged in or your session has timed out (you wont see the my store link on the top right) your items do not show up. So in essence its all for show to make you think you are getting front page exposure and youre not. I find this to be extremely shady on their part.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008 03:09:16 AM »

did you delete your cookies and try again, to verify that it IS just when you are logged in?

i am just curious...cos sometimes things will remain on my main page for DAYS on various websites, but really they are passed repeatedly

i now empty my cookies frequently, and i dont find that happening as often
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2008 04:13:42 AM »

Do you have to have pay pall to use this???
'Cause when you make a profile, they say something about:
emailadres = Paypal wil send the money to this adress ??
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009 12:31:16 PM »

did you delete your cookies and try again, to verify that it IS just when you are logged in?

i am just curious...cos sometimes things will remain on my main page for DAYS on various websites, but really they are passed repeatedly

i now empty my cookies frequently, and i dont find that happening as often

Yes, I verified it -- it's starting to get around that they are doing this.  I even went as far to send in an email regrading this issue and was corresponding with the owner. (he should be a politician)  I've been debating if I should publish the emails or not, however they do know about this function and it's coded this way. 

Here is a little tidbit that made me laugh when I sent my email in to them.  This is the first email I sent in to them. David, Kovanen did reply to me directly but when he did so he forgot to remove the "forward" that his staff member sent to him.

His message to "David" made me laugh and I knew right away from that they knew about the feature products functioning that way.

To: Kovanen, David
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 13:05
Subject: Fw: Featured Products


David,
Do you want to answer this or do you want me to? This is something that I do not want to get onto the threads or forums. It could hurt us pretty good.
----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXX removed for my own privacy
To: Service@ShopHandmade.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 09:48
Subject: Featured Products


Hello,

 

I really don't have a questions just an observation about the featured handmade products listings on the front page. I have noticed that if you are logged into your account and you visit the front page you will often see your products appear often on the featured products list.   However, if you're logged out your account and your session has timed out your items do not appear. I've tested this theory on multiple browsers at different times on different computers.  Ive refreshed the front page over 75 times on each test and did not see one of my products appear on the front page.

 

Once you log into your account lo and behold a single refresh and one of my products suddenly appear. Considering this is a "Free" store I really did not expect much. However this type of programming only purpose is meant to deceive your store owners and I find that very disturbing as Im sure other store owners would. If youre willing to deceive on one thing youre willing to deceive on others and just that fact tells me its time to take all my items out of your storefront.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009 03:36:44 PM »

Maybe it's just me, but the navigation doesn't seem very user-friendly for browsing items.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009 09:41:55 AM »

I have not sold a darn thing on it..
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2009 03:05:43 AM »

i find the email response so funny ...... obviously someone needs to go back to his 'how to send an email' class ....
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2009 05:49:53 PM »

pretty funny they didn't remove the forward!!
so has ANYONE had any luck selling their items there??
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2009 06:53:31 AM »

Oh, that's wicked funny!

These guys have been trolling around Etsy for the past month. I was thinking about signing up, but now I can't trust them. I can't do business with people like that, it's just a taste of things to come.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009 06:51:08 PM »

I just thought I'd jump in and say that I've had a store there since mid-October, and have had 180+ sales. I sell vintage ephemera and supplies for altered art. There doesn't seem to be tons of that kind of stuff on Shophandmade so I maybe have a little corner on the market.

The sales started slowly, just like they did in my Etsy store, but they are building nicely. I've even had a few repeat buyers, which is always nice.

I haven't had any problems with them, and any time I've had a question, it's been answered quickly. I like the place.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009 07:09:36 PM »

I tried this site, just set up a store and put a couple of things in it to see what would happen. Store was easy enough to set up and is in fact free. They allow you to make "bids" to be a featured store or product in different categories. It seems that if you don't bid you don't get any ad time. I did not bid and could not even find my products when doing a very specific search. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of a help section set up yet, I looked for one because their category set up was a bit confusing. I have not made up my mind on this one yet.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2010 12:21:50 PM »

So I am looking to start selling my handmade t-shirts online. I have been trying to decide if I should sell on ShopHandmade.com, Artfire.com or Etsy.com. These are the 3 I have narrowed it down too.

I was leaning strongly towards ShopHandmade.com because they are free and I think their site is kinda neat. But when I saw their Etsy.com comparison where they state  "ShopHandmade's customers are more affluent than those on Etsy."  and then they show a quantcast chart from 2008 I became a bit suspicious. Why would they still have a 2008 chart showing in 2010? So I decided to take a trip over to quantcast.com. Which actually is a neat little site that lets you see traffic from a variety of sites.

Come to find out Etsy gets millions of traffic monthly with 59% of visitors falling in an income range of $60,000 and above. ( according to http://www.quantcast.com/etsy.com )

Where as Shophandmade.com only gets thousands reaching a max of 58.8K on  2/18/2010 and only 47% of their traffic has an income of $60,000 or above. And for similar sites like theirs they have a higher than norm index of traffic in the less than $30,000 income range. (according to http://www.quantcast.com/shophandmade.com )

So now that I have done research on quantcast.com I don't consider ShopHandmade.com to be a trustworthy site, because they are currently as of today 4/18/2010 displaying inaccurate and misleading information about their competitors. It makes me wonder if they have something more to hide.

I just don't know. I am still undecided but at this rate Etsy.com is looking like the best choice for someone like me who is just starting to branch out online.

If you have or had shops on either or both sites please share your experience. Or if you know of another place please share that too.

Many thanks!



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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2010 04:52:34 AM »

I opened a shop at 1000Markets. It's one thing to have an audience of $60K+, but it's totally another for those people to part with their hard-earned dough, and unless you make things to appeal directly to that audience, it doesn't matter if you have 100% or 3% 60Kers. When I was younger and making between $20-30K - that's plenty of motivation to shop 'til I dropped. So $60K doesn't really impress me much.

What I don't like about Etsy is that they've become a big supply shop (well, and the fees, which are stupid considering they also take money off the top of your sale). Without their supplies vendors, they'd be floundering. I prefer the atmosphere at 1000 simply because you don't have to weed through a pile of suppliers to find an actual handmade thing to buy. Plus they don't distract buyers from the buying with a bunch of "community extras". That's partly why Etsy gets so much traffic. The non-buyers or the sellers just hang out there. They're not actually buying anything.

And with any online mall situation, there are ALWAYS those who are the top sellers. That's because they don't rely on the mall setup to do their marketing for them. Doesn't matter where your online store is, really - the marketeer gets the sales. (Note to self: get up off rear and do some marketing because your bags are piling up downstairs).
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2010 10:22:24 PM »

They sound pretty shady to me, especially w/that forwarded email. I think I'll stick to Etsy for now.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010 04:48:22 PM »

Well, I'm moving to Artfire now, mostly because I don't like Amazon Payments that much. I miss PayPal. I'd still recommend 1000Markets, though.

Update: Oops, 1000Markets got bought out by another outfit and it looks like they're into mass-produced stuff now. Oh well, looks like everyone's stuck with Etsy. I'm getting my own website set up again and every other site can go hang!
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2010 01:31:58 PM »

I dream for a reputable and ethical website entrepreneur to open a site for artists and crafters. All the existing sites are missing one obvious marketing tool, mainstream advertising, in old fashioned magazines., ie  The New Yorker,  that's where the buyers are.  The existing sites all end up being a spinning wheel of sellers selling to sellers.

I just checked out handmade and here I am reading about their front page hi-jinks, I am doing my research. I had great hopes for 1000 Markets. FAIL. They refuse to advertise.

The only reason Etsy is the top place is they started first.
Last month Etsy expanded the treasury feature from 500-900 daily treasuries to 18,000, as of today un-expiring, you can make as many as you want and growing daily is mind boggling folly.  localcolorist on Etsy and 1000Markets
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2011 11:40:39 AM »

I have a store on Shophandmade and have had it for over a year with very little sales. But I just noticed that they are adding a lot of items to Google search and I recently had 2 sales.  My inventory is low there because I have another shop on another site, but I am going to increase my inventory.  I sell handmade barbie doll and Ken doll clothes and designer victorian hats, designer western hats for dolls and I will see if business increases.
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2011 04:55:15 PM »

It's funny to read through my old posts and look at "my handbag thing" in perspective. It's a fond hobby, for sure, and I've dabbled in this and that for sales, but haven't been able to put my finger on quite the right setup for me. I just barely got through the Artfire setup when I realized I hate the tediousness of a typical listing on other people's sites. It just irks me that they're so demanding. No more - for me it's my website, Tumblr, and Facebook. Heh. Let's see if someone resurrects this thread next year so I can see my progress!
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2013 10:57:23 AM »

It's been awhile since this post has been commented on...how is everyone feeling about shophandmade.com now?
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2013 10:10:40 PM »

I was intrigued to start selling on this or atleast looking at it, until I read that email, very sneaky! I dont want to do business with these people. Especially looking at some replies in this thread, makes it look like they were written by people who are working for shophandmade ......suspicious!
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2013 07:06:46 AM »

Wow, since 2011, and I'm still not selling handbags online. Problems: 1) I like to make different bags all the time on the fly with no pattern 2) Fabric hoarding 3) Photo taking tediousness. 4) The MN Dept of Revenue shook me down for money I don't even make. Yes, they can make an assumption - without proof - that you're "really" making x-dollars and you have to pay it! I didn't have time to fight 'em last time because I just started a new job, but since then, it's absolutely NO BIZ VENTURES in MN. Good riddance jerks, I'm moving to Wyoming in 2015.

*thanks for the rant space*

In the end, online selling requires more non-creative work than I have the time or inclination for. I like the creation end of things, and craft shows do the work of bringing people "into your store". I have other biz ventures that do work for me online, but crafts hasn't been one of them. I wanted it to work, but couldn't do the work. And that's what you have to assess with an objective eye, if at all possible, which for me took years to figure out. As an optimist, it took longer. Pessimism has its uses!

If the work could just leap from your brain directly to the internet, life would be so much easier. When are they going to invent that?
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