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Grimnir
« on: June 22, 2008 03:19:44 AM »

Made these from a tutorial I found on Paleoplanet - http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/15249





This is from normal leather with the grain side innermost, I'd love to have some buckskin to try it with Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2008 03:56:24 AM »

Those look really great!
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2008 05:12:30 AM »

those look fantastic!
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2008 05:52:26 AM »

those r awesome!

my fiance would love them even more than i do. they look elvenish and he LOVES elveny things or anything rustic looking like that
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2008 06:01:08 AM »

More than being incredibly good looking, they look crazily comfortable. Like being barefoot but not.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2008 06:09:51 AM »

Apparently one guy in the Mountain Man era described moccs as a civilised way to go barefoot Smiley

They are very comfy and if you follow the tutorial very easy to make.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2008 06:54:59 AM »

hey - good job!!

i want me some of those!  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2008 08:07:39 AM »

if you only posted these yesterday!
June 21st was Aboriginal day! Maybe just in Canada but still
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008 08:08:25 AM »

these are awesome! great job!
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008 09:51:54 AM »

*sigh* I wear mocs year round but I would love more than anything to have a leather sewing machine so I could make them myself. These look wonderful
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Grimnir
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008 09:56:24 AM »

Sewing machine? Never met one yet that could whipstitch Tongue These are all done by hand, takes about a day Smiley If you use a machine you won't be able to turn the seams properly.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2008 10:37:13 AM »

Wonderful - I want a pair just for the reasons mentioned. I hate shoes and go barefoot whenever possible -- a trait apparently inherited by my son who wears nothing but sandals.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008 12:30:21 PM »

you did such a great job! very professional looking. and weird timing- i was just reading one of la'mour's sacket books and every time the character mentioned making moccasins i kept thinking "i wonder if it's really very hard to do?...." i think i will definitely give this a go- and neat website too. thanks!  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008 12:45:35 PM »

Only thing I would suggest is make your first pair from heavyweight denim or vinyl, something like that. Then you can adjust the pattern until it fits perfectly without wasting a hide Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008 01:08:20 PM »

Very cool... and I like the idea of using demin or another type of heavy fabric to give the moc a different look/feel.  Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008 01:50:33 PM »

those look super confy and soft Smiley
i might try it Wink
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008 02:13:56 PM »

Very cool idea. Love your execution. Are they part of a costume, for daily wear or both? Smiley

Think I'll try these in denim, with little sole under it. Thanks for the idea!
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008 02:52:46 PM »

These are so Cool! I've always wanted to make some shoes or moccasins. Was it very hard?
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2008 03:28:53 PM »

Fantastic!
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2008 03:31:59 PM »

These are really easy to make. Be sure to use waxed thread (mine's artificial sinew) as the wax makes it so much easier to pull through.

They are part normal wear, part costume Smiley I'm going to try and make a pair just for costume though, as I'm a member of a new Mountain Man living history group
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008 04:02:04 PM »

This rocks! It reminds me of my old moccasin boots. I worked an entire summer to buy them. This is ever so much cooler, making them. Hitting this rocks!
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2008 04:27:57 PM »

Thanks everyone! I can't believe my boots have made it onto the front page Shocked I never thought I'd do anything good enough to feature on the front page here Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Really pleased
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2008 04:50:49 PM »

If I wanted to make these (because they're oh so awesome), where would one acquire the leather? Smiley

P.S. yours rock Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2008 07:03:38 PM »

I don't know about Grimnir (whose boots make him my hero), but I like to dig through upholstery remnants at my local leather factory (in this case, Tandy) - I can get fairly good sized pieces and they charge by weight of the total I heap onto the counter.  I also have a large, thick leather coat I got at a thrift store (has minor damage and was half-off day, so cheap!) and plan to make boots and matching gloves (sleeves are the right size for the boot tops!)  - now I feel like I need to get a move on and stop procrastinating!  Thanks Grimnir!
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2008 07:03:41 PM »

That's so weird, I was just looking at some moccasin kits yesterday but they didn't have them in my size. These are very nice! Did you use a particular brand of leather needle? The ones I use never seem to be durable enough to properly make a project. I broke one once just trying to mend a leather belt. I must be doing something wrong
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2008 07:44:49 PM »

Thank you for posting that wbsite! It is full of useful information! I have been designing my own shoes for a few years,  (Designing.. mentally... not actually creating!  Tongue )and only recently found an old book describing how to make moccasins. I am looking forward to trying them out in some future time when there is an extra day laying around....
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2008 11:09:57 PM »

I meant to say make professionally, oops Tongue. I've made mocs before from various tutorials and patterns out of all kinds of fabrics including one leather pair from second hand pair of pants. I do think that I would benefit from a leather machine to achieve that professional look and durability that would be required to sell them, common example Minnetonka. 
I must say though that you have a very even hand stitch and did a wonderful job in construction. I hope you make tons!
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2008 11:36:42 PM »

Awesome job! I've been making mocs since..well, my family makes native crafts so I've always been around them. Those look great!

umm...for some of the people who ask about needles, a fair amount of the "kits" you can buy come with the hide already punched with holes, I also like doing it that way, it makes for less stress.

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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2008 12:17:26 AM »

I used a stitch marker to get the holes spaced right and an awl to pierce the leather. If it's thin enough you can use a glovers needle which has a triangular sharpened tip to go through the leather, just remember they are extremely sharp!
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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2008 12:22:50 AM »

Wow i love those !  Kiss
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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2008 01:10:30 AM »

this just rocks in a stone age way haha.your moccasins turned out very beautifull! i love them, and i want to thank you also for giving the website to the pattern because not only the pattern is awesome but i never found a forum like this and i was searching for something like this for a while allready. So it's double nice to see your post Smiley

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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2008 04:30:24 AM »

wow, they are cool.
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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2008 10:00:10 AM »

Wow! They are very Middle Earth, yet trendy at the same time. Let's all start a Crafster Ugg rebellion!

Fabjou, my sewing machine wasn't expensive but it says it can sew leather. I am sure you could do this with soft leather or suede
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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2008 10:00:45 AM »

I used a stitch marker to get the holes spaced right and an awl to pierce the leather. If it's thin enough you can use a glovers needle which has a triangular sharpened tip to go through the leather, just remember they are extremely sharp!

Thanks for the tip, I guess I should have just broke down and bought an awl to begin with- it didn't seem too thick, but now I know better. I definitely have my share of battle scars from my leather adventures. (Of the crafty nature of course  Cheesy )
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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2008 12:41:49 PM »

Roxy1976, I second your sewing machine comment.  I sewed these seams on a regular, low-end Pfaff, with a sharp leather needle.  I did stick the needle into a block of wax, first, but the leather was dry enough that I don't think it was necessary.  On the suede itself, it's garment weight, and I used a jeans needle and just sewed.



And then sewed the leather onto a suede coat.  Again, sharp leather needle, and had to play around with the tension on a test piece, first.


The leather cuff in the pictures is about the thickness of a moccasin slipper, maybe even a little thicker. My machine wouldn't work on the sole of a "boot" moccasin, though - the thick, hard leather for the sole of an "outdoor" shoe needs to be hand sewn or professional machine stitched.  I have an awl and stitching pony that I have yet to use - but now I'm motivated!
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« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2008 01:01:24 PM »

Wonderful job
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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2008 03:45:57 PM »

Those are great!! I have been searching high and low for some info on making a pair of these Cheesy
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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2008 04:15:29 PM »

Those are great!! I have been searching high and low for some info on making a pair of these Cheesy
Thanks Smiley to you and everyone! I know what you mean though, I'v wanted to make a pair of mocs for years, ever since I first got started in leatherwork, and this is the first one I've seen that was fully comprehensible!
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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2008 03:39:44 PM »

ah ah i want to make some so badly!  beautiful job Smiley 
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