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« on: February 07, 2005 03:17:49 PM »

one of my friends is thinking of going vegetarian.  as of now he only eats chicken occasionally.  his biggest problem is that he is HIGHLY ALLERGIC to tofu.  he likes beans fine but a person can only eat so many beans, not to mention the missing of chicken-like-substances.  so i was wondering what alternatives to tofu there are for protein and fake meat?  thanks!

EDIT:  the part in tofu he's highly allergic to is soy protein which means anything such as tofu, miso, tvp,  tempeh, and other fake meats will cause the same reaction
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2005 03:41:57 PM »

Quorn, http://www.quorn.com has no soy in it! It ROCKS! I prefer the breaded stuff. I used to get it at Mollie Stones and Whole Foods, but now my Safeway carries some of it!
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2005 10:02:22 PM »

there are many, many kinds of beans if you buy them dry, so maybe increasing the selection will help.  Also whole grains have alot of protien depending on the grain, the ones i like the best are teff, quinoa, and whole wheat.  you can use them as breakfast cereals with fruits and dairy on top or mixed with all kinds of things for cold salads or hot cassaroles.  if he continues to eat eggs, they are a really building food for healthy people.  Has he tried tempeh?  it is a less processed soybean food, so if it is the soybeans he is allergic to, then probably not a good idea?   Anyway, he may be allergic or having a reaction to the pesticides used on soybeans as they are one of the most heavily sprayed crops, has he tried organic?  Also, not sure how he is showing signs of an allergy, but changing too quickly to a new diet and/or eating too much of a new thing is a good way to screw up your system. 
anyway, i've been a vegetarian my whole life and i hardly ever eat tofu, maybe once every 6 months... 
there are lots of other options and information about how to eat healthily without meat so don't stop trying!
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2005 12:38:42 PM »

there are many, many kinds of beans if you buy them dry, so maybe increasing the selection will help.  Also whole grains have alot of protien depending on the grain, the ones i like the best are teff, quinoa, and whole wheat.  you can use them as breakfast cereals with fruits and dairy on top or mixed with all kinds of things for cold salads or hot cassaroles.  if he continues to eat eggs, they are a really building food for healthy people.  Has he tried tempeh?  it is a less processed soybean food, so if it is the soybeans he is allergic to, then probably not a good idea?   Anyway, he may be allergic or having a reaction to the pesticides used on soybeans as they are one of the most heavily sprayed crops, has he tried organic?  Also, not sure how he is showing signs of an allergy, but changing too quickly to a new diet and/or eating too much of a new thing is a good way to screw up your system. 
anyway, i've been a vegetarian my whole life and i hardly ever eat tofu, maybe once every 6 months... 
there are lots of other options and information about how to eat healthily without meat so don't stop trying!

he drank about an inch work of soy milk one from a dixie cup and his throat closed up.  any other bite of  anything made out of soy protein has caused similiar reactions so tempeh is out of the question.  he's no stranger to food allergies (he's somewhat allergic to spinach and eggs as well) and has never attempted to go vegetarian at all so it's probably not a dramatic change.  the allergy to heavily sprayed crops is worth looking into (in anycase it can't be healthy so we go organic when we can which is hard when you're poor)
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2005 02:56:03 PM »

congrats on your friend thinking about making the big switch! Smiley

Quorn is amazing, if your in the UK there are tonns of places where you can get it from (even farm foods - even though the name sounds.. wrong -_-) mm the carvable chicken was amazing, and guilt free Smiley but! and there is a big but! make sure that your friend tries a small piece first and wait 24 hours for reactions etc. There have been some adverse reactions to those with "mold" allergies Shocked

Make sure your friend has their daily flax too! about 2 tbsp of ground flax a day, normally whizzed up in things like smoothies etc. to keep their omega 3 ratio higher than the omega 6's. Sorry xD recommendning this to all new veggies as most don't actually even find out about it D: - known as linseed i believe here in the UK.

http://www.veganhealth.org/shv/
It has a great source on veg*n diet - vegan info still applies to veggies btw ^^;; thought i should post that for health info etc. Hope this helps at all, sorry if not D:
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2005 03:35:21 AM »

I would eat meaty-esque vegetables... eggplant, or portabello mushrooms... Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2005 05:38:25 AM »

seitan ("wheat meat") is good.  it's whole wheat with the starches all rinsed out, leaving just the gluten.  I've always made my own, but it can be bought pre-cooked and as a mix -  note for the fellow budget deficient, it's super cheap to make.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2005 06:46:23 AM »

Grains Grains Grains!  Quinoa is a great grain to keep around the house.  It's easy to make, and has a good deal of protein. 
You can make it more watery and sweeten it for a breakfast-type treat, or cook it with less water to make it rice-like.
I love it if you cook it with some miso and tamari and throw in some veggies.  Perfect to take to work.
Amaranth is another good grain, although it takes a tad longer to cook.

Textured Vegetable Protien (TVP) is another must-have.  It doesn't have any flavor, but you add it to stuff.  Like thow it in sauce to make a 'meat' sauce.  Or get chunks and throw it in stirfry. 

Hope this helps!
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2005 08:12:59 AM »

Grains Grains Grains!  Quinoa is a great grain to keep around the house.  It's easy to make, and has a good deal of protein. 
You can make it more watery and sweeten it for a breakfast-type treat, or cook it with less water to make it rice-like.
I love it if you cook it with some miso and tamari and throw in some veggies.  Perfect to take to work.
Amaranth is another good grain, although it takes a tad longer to cook.

Textured Vegetable Protien (TVP) is another must-have.  It doesn't have any flavor, but you add it to stuff.  Like thow it in sauce to make a 'meat' sauce.  Or get chunks and throw it in stirfry. 

Hope this helps!

thanks!  quinoa and amaranth are defiantely worth looking into.  miso, tvp, and i think tamari have soy protein in them (which is the part of tofu he's allergic to).

Quorn, http://www.quorn.com has no soy in it! It ROCKS! I prefer the breaded stuff. I used to get it at Mollie Stones and Whole Foods, but now my Safeway carries some of it!

thanks!  there's a whole foods right by us so we'll check it out.

seitan ("wheat meat") is good.  it's whole wheat with the starches all rinsed out, leaving just the gluten.  I've always made my own, but it can be bought pre-cooked and as a mix -  note for the fellow budget deficient, it's super cheap to make.



wow, i always thought seitan used soy protein. 
if you don't mind posting a short tutorial on how to make your own that would be great.
thanks for the info.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2005 12:22:15 PM »

I second the eggplant and portobello mushrooms.  It's amazing how meaty they can be.  They might really help when he misses that meat texture.
And I know you mentioned beans, but has he looked into all the different kinds of there?  I love lentils!  Check out making a lentil burger.  There are lots of recipes online.
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