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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2008 07:49:42 AM »

This is amazing! I love it!
That must have used a lot of clay though!!
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2008 07:57:24 AM »

OK.  Wow.  I don't even know what to say.  50-60 hours?  It's absolutely stunning!
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2008 08:06:44 AM »

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When I say I "broke" the clay gun, the first one I broke the bottom off the plunger, then both 'handles' off the side. The second one I broke the bottom off the plunger (but I'm still using it).

Wow Shocked, you broke pieces of metal clay guns off!!  Just with your hands??  Shocked  
I've heard of clayers bending metal clay guns and even causing the metal paint to come off the barrel (when using one particular version of a pusher), and also bending the metal disks, but never actually breaking parts off.   And your poor hands too!

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Before I do my next one .. I need to figure out a way to extrude stiff clay more easily.


Oh, there are definitely ways to make that easier!  
First you'd want to do things to make the clay softer (especially when using a firmer clay like Kato).  Check out this page at my site on using additives, heat and friction to soften clay right from the start:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/Conditioning.htm
...click on Stretching & Warming and on Additives

Then check out this page for softening just before extruding from a clay gun, and also for making a "pusher" for the clay tun to help it extrude the clay more easily and quickly:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/claygun.htm
...click on Preparing Clay for Extruding, and on Pushers*
(You might also want to check out the category at the bottom of that page for tips on making Balinese Filigree in particular.)

*The kind of pusher I make is just two hinged boards (like a "bellows"), with a hole in one board to hold the clay gun... easy and cheap to make.  
With properly prepared clay, I can simply lean on the top board with my palm and whole body and extrude a whole barrelful of clay in about 2-3 seconds, so it works extremely well.  And it's not necessary to remove the gun from the bellows pusher to reload it as with some of the other pushers... just unscrew the cap and load in another log.  
There are other types of pushers described on my page though, as well as other clay guns, but be aware of all details because sometimes those can be harder to reload, or be harder on hands/fingers, etc, especially when used as much as you have.

P.S.  Good choice on using the Kato clay too instead of Sculpey... firmer clay allows much more precision and evenness in shaping the tiny rope configurations you made, with the additional benefit of the final result being stronger. You could also use Premo or even one of the Fimos for strength but more softness from the get-go, then just rest or refrigerate the extruded ropes before shaping them.


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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2008 10:14:11 AM »

That 'bellows' arrangement is what I used, after I figured that there was no way I was going to do it with my hands alone. Then I broke the hinge on that, so I ended up just using the two pieces of wood and pressing down with my feet.
The light colours were okay, but the black was the killer.
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2008 08:35:21 PM »

this makes me happy
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2008 08:42:26 PM »

Fascinating. What are the dimensions?
This rock poster *rocks*
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2008 08:48:07 AM »

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That 'bellows' arrangement is what I used, after I figured that there was no way I was going to do it with my hands alone. Then I broke the hinge on that. . .]


Wow!  Did you use a good strong hinge, and long and reasonably "bite-y" screws??... something like this:


I've never had a problem with my version of the bellows pusher (which has its hole in a different place than the original one pioneered by Maureen Carlson, and is longer--her version could bend the barrel) as long as the clay was properly prepared before extruding.

Since you're doing so much extruding, it would be worth it to make the pusher boards even longer than mine, since the longer they are the less "work" needs to be done by you or the pusher parts. 
There are a few other intriguing obejcts to use with clay guns (like donut weights from barbells) and different set ups for similar pushers (like one you'd sit on), etc., listed on my Clay Guns page that you might want to check out too before trying again:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/claygun.htm
There's even a much bigger clay gun extruder (designed for use with earth clay) that would hold a lot more clay at one time... you might have to have a small-hole die made for it, but considering how much clay you're extruding that might be well worth it. 


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The light colours were okay, but the black was the killer.

How did you prepare the clay, especially the stiffer colors...did you use both an additive and additional warmth before extruding??  That really should work.
(For example, I used to run my barrels filled with conditioned/softened clay under our instant-hot-water spigot for a few seconds just before extruding ... now that that's broken Cry, I just leave sheets or logs of clay on a heating pad (on a plastic bag) before putting in the barrel, and/or I use several filled guns and leave them on the heating pad.)



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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2008 12:11:11 PM »

This is amazing! I am in awe over the detail shot.

This totally rocks.
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2008 02:30:34 PM »

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2008 11:50:56 PM »

What did you use as backing for the poster? You have clearly put a lot of work into this.  Smiley
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