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Minna
« on: March 01, 2008 03:58:07 PM »



Here's an odd - but desperate - question. I need some sharp minds to help me with this!

Problem is, I have a dog who LOVES to sleep under my bed. I have an old IKEA bed that I've had since I was a kid, and it's not in the best of shapes (just keeping it for 6 more months though).

And once it actually broke and I fell to the ground.

Now - I don't want my dog under there, because what if it caved in on him?!

BUT - I have no idea how to keep him out of there. I goes under and there's no stopping him. I've put boxes with books in and suitcases and what not under there, but he just pushed them out and crawls under again.

In desperate need of a dog-stopper. Anyone?
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008 04:36:46 PM »

Concrete blocks?  You could wrap them in cloth so they look less industrial.  I doubt the best-skilled dog could push those out of its way.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008 05:35:34 AM »

I'm not so sure he wouldn't, but I have no idea where to get concrete blocks from anyway :/
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008 11:53:27 AM »

My dumb idea is as follows.

Take an old queen size sheet.  Set your bed on top of it.  Take a second sheet, put it under the box spring.  Hand sew the two sheets together all the way around the bed.  I'd leave the boxes of books/suitcases under the bed so that in case the pushing on the sheets knocks the bed down, your dog won't get squished underneath.  If your bed has only four corner posts, you may be able to get away with one sheet, cut a diagonal slash down the corners, and tying it to the bedposts.  The middle may have to be "laced" so it doesn't pull down. 

You may be able to find sheets at Goodwill.  Or if you are on Freecycle (freecycle.org) you may post a message for some free sheets. 

My other bad idea was placing two old tires under the bed, one at the head the other at the foot, so that the bed won't land on your dog. 
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Minna
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008 02:33:26 PM »

Should mention that I live in Sweden so I don't really have access to the places you mention, but thanks anyway.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I like the idea though. I was thinking of nailing the openings shut with cut sheets, but the only thing I can think of are staples, to get it to stick, but how on earth do I get under there while I have shut it? (I mean, I need to store under there, and also clean etc.)
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008 03:01:55 PM »

What I've always done is filled the space under the bed with storage containers (short ones, of course), and fill them with the things that you don't need every day/week (such as extra blankets). The benefits:
- if the bed does break, you won't fall far
- storage space that is hidden but easily accessible...you can store more craft supplies!  Wink
- no room for the dog to get in there (my dog loves to hide under beds too...it was her cave, from which she would set up her doomsday devices and command her troops Cheesy)

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008 09:55:34 PM »

My puppy would crawl under my bed all the time too! But he'd go under there to poop, and boxes, barriers wouldn't stop him either. I saw this at my local 99 cent store, taped it to the floor and so far (knock on wood) its working!)

http://www.gardeners.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-Gardeners-Site/default/Product-SellPage?OfferID=11687&SC=

I also put it on a ledge under my roof to keep the pigeons away.
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Minna
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2008 07:35:14 AM »

Calluna - that is what I did! I have heavy boxes, filled with all my books, irons, water boiler and othe rkitchen supplies that I haven't used yet, but it doesn't really matter because no matter how heavy, they are easy to move sideways. My dog even moved my bed side table to get under there, no problem. When he's desperate, he is as strong as a polar bear.

eggyolk That's a good idea, I haven't seen them around here though and I have no idea where to get one. I'm just worried he won't understand, or even care, that he could get hurt on those and still crawl under when he gets frightened. How big/sharp are they?
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2008 08:56:21 AM »

Each stub is about 1 inch tall, is flexible, and has a blunt end.  It gives pretty easily under finger pressure.  I saw mine in the gardening section and when I first put it down my dog pawed at it. He didnt like it touching between the pads of his paws so he sat there barking at it for a bit then gave up.
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Minna
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2008 09:36:30 AM »

hmm, I'll see if I can find any. I doubt he wouldn't find a way to get past it, or at least - remove it. I'd have to nail it to the floor, which I couldn't do haha!

Reward to the person who can outsmart my much too foxy dog... (he even kind of looks like a fox)
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2008 10:11:38 AM »

Give him someplace else safe that has the same qualities as under the bed:  a box, dog crate, something similar and re-train him to sleep there.  Preferably outside the bed room.  Reverse your thinking:  You don't have a bed problem, you have a training problem.
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Minna
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2008 05:00:18 PM »

Give him someplace else safe that has the same qualities as under the bed:  a box, dog crate, something similar and re-train him to sleep there.  Preferably outside the bed room.  Reverse your thinking:  You don't have a bed problem, you have a training problem.

Not really, no. First of all, I don't have a bedroom. And he has other places to go, lots of places he sleep in when it's day and I'm up. But as soon as I go to bed, he goes under bed. Couldn't possibly train him to sleep somewhere else (believe me, my dog is well-trained) for I couldn't stop him from crawling under, once I'm asleep. So no, that wasn't a very good idea.
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calluna
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2008 07:50:10 PM »

Plus, there really is a bed problem -- you don't want it falling to the floor when you're on top of it, regardless of the dog. Sorry I haven't thought up a crafty solution yet.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2008 09:09:44 PM »

Can you buy plastic lattice there?

http://www.bucks4yourstuff.com/images/latticeRS.jpg

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=94462-81826-SLW-48&lpage=none

You could wire it together in a square, and still be able to get to your stuff.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2008 01:17:29 PM »

Plus, there really is a bed problem -- you don't want it falling to the floor when you're on top of it, regardless of the dog. Sorry I haven't thought up a crafty solution yet.

Exactly. And, I already have woken up once because it caved in on one side... Not very nice at all...

Can you buy plastic lattice there?

http://www.bucks4yourstuff.com/images/latticeRS.jpg

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=94462-81826-SLW-48&lpage=none

You could wire it together in a square, and still be able to get to your stuff.

Good idea, how would I attach that? (not sure if they sell it here, I'll look around)
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008 05:50:12 AM »

Probably not what you want to hear, but I sorta agree with Marmish, there is obviously something that he likes about under the bed: being near you, being in a confined space, being somewhere dark, being somewhere cool...if you can replicate that elsewhere somehow he might become attracted to it.

The only thing I can think of that might resolve all those possibilities is a crate.  I know a lot of people don't like to crate their dogs but if there is a safety issue with him under the bed and it crashing down on him it will definitely be a safe option for him.  Most dogs do like small confined, dark areas to bed down because it makes them feel safer.

I've seen in different instances where you can cover the crate with something (wood or anything else fairly rigid)  and use it like a night stand as well, the dog is beside you still and has its confined little area and you tuck him in every night Cheesy  My dogs got so used to it, we'd say it was "bedtime" and they'd run and get in themselves Smiley

Good luck finding something that works Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2008 06:39:39 AM »

Some dogs just think the only place to be at night is near you - sort of a pack thing. Could you put something like a storage box under the corner sections? If the bed legs do cave in then the storage boxes will keep you up above the dog.
My dog destroyed everything I tried to stop her from sleeping underneath the bed (- she had to sleep in the bedroom for safety reasons -long story.)  I even tried nailing hardboard along the bottom which she destroyed in 1 afternoon! In the end I put plastic boxes underneath which I could store stuff in. They were about 1inch lower than the bed bas andhad little wheels and were easy to move for cleaning and left a nice big space for her so she did not push them out, or eat them. Pity I could not do anything about her snoring!
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2008 07:21:25 AM »

My simple solution as your bed is broken anyway, just sleep on the mattress on the floor - no chance of a collapse and no way your dog can crawl underneath. This is what we had to do when our bed broke until we could afford a replacement.
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2008 07:26:12 AM »

Can you find an old mattress or box spring that will fit under the bed? It will take up more space and also hold you up if you fall. Otherwise, I agree with the bed on the floor idea or just on this part http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/25844409 until you can replace the broken bed.
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2008 02:56:13 AM »

Sprinkle cayenne pepper all under your bed? Buy it at any grocery store.

If it gets wet it could stain carpet (red), but hopefully under your bed is not a place that would be soaked for any reason.....

It stings their nose (no permanent damage, no real harm done) but keeps them away. Many people employ this technique in their flower beds and such.

You could also try white pepper which is of course white. But I dunno how well that works.

I wouldn't do this unless I had a nice alternative place for the doggy to crash, and it seems yours likes a roof over his head. What about CRATE, or a tented doggie bed?

I'm not a dog person nor a cook, but I imagine that you'd need to periodically wipe up the old pepper and sprinkle down some new. I can't imagine this not working. But I wonder how the bedroom would smell?

Still, I'd give it a try.
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2008 07:03:56 AM »

I have to agree........this is a training problem. 

Have you tried contacting a pet trainer to ask advice?  Because even if you're bed wasn't falling........if he's "hiding" under the bed when he's scared.......he has an insecurity issue.  Most dogs prefer to sleep where they can see their owners while they're sleeping........bec ause of their protective nature. 

BTW........you could always purchase some wooden boards..........fas hion a 'box' frame that would nestle just inside your bed frame.........and reach from the bottom of your boxspring to the floor.  This would keep the bed from falling............ .....provide 'even' support for you.........AND keep Fido out from under........... Wink

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2008 07:29:02 PM »

my bf nailed a board under ours, we have drawers under, its a queen waterbed frame, with regular mattresses. its not a training problem.dogs like to feel secure. they like a place near their owners. my dogs doesnt want to get smushed to pieces by my flailing about in sleep, so she used to do this. now she sleeps in the space between the frame and mattress. shes weird, but tis safer.i think the cayene pepper ideas good, and those lil spikes.. also the lattice ideas great..
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