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lacklustre
« on: January 08, 2008 08:34:07 PM »

I've been following the Yarnpath guide to entrelac, and so far it's been going well, but I'm a bit confused by one of the instructions.  After I create my first side triangle, the instructions say to pick up 8 stitches - but which needle do I pick them up on?  And when I pick them up, am I just grabbing the stitches, or am I knitting them at the same time?  There's no image provided of this, so I'm afraid of messing it up.  Does my question make sense?  Can anybody help?
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008 09:10:18 PM »

Your question is a great one! you pick up the stitches by knitting them on using the right needle.

http://z.about.com/d/knitting/1/5/k/1/-/-/Picking_up_stitch.jpg

that picture shows someone's needle in stitch, ready to be knit on. if you need anymore help, just ask! I am stuck on the second part, but I know how to pick up stitches! Smiley
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soozeq
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008 09:52:32 PM »

Pretend the side of the triangle is your left needle and insert your right needle (it should have a stitch on it with the yarn coming off it) into the first st of the triangle as if you were going to knit a stitch.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008 05:56:38 AM »

Criminy Jickets instructions for the Garterlac Dishcloth include a link to a picture tutorial that I think does a great job of showing where to pick up the stitches. The link is at the end of the first paragraph
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(Edited April 29, 2007 to indicate that a pictorial tutorial can now be found here.)

Sorry I can't link straight to it but that site is blocked at work.
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lacklustre
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008 09:58:49 AM »

Pretend the side of the triangle is your left needle and insert your right needle (it should have a stitch on it with the yarn coming off it) into the first st of the triangle as if you were going to knit a stitch.

Um...no, the stitch with the yarn coming off of it is currently on my left needle.  I don't understand how I can use my right needle for this.
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lacklustre
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008 11:23:49 AM »

Okay, never mind, I figured out what I was doing wrong as far as picking up stitches go.  But now the directions say this:

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Turn and P8, turn
K7, SSK, turn and purl back.

Continue this way until you have incorporated all 8 stitches from the first pass triangle.  Congratulations - youve made your first block!

I don't understand what it's asking me to do here - what is meant by "incorporate all eight stitches?"  If I'm doing a ssk every time, aren't I continually losing stitches?  And when it says to turn and purl back - how far do I purl back?  After doing the first pass through and having turned and gotten ready to purl back, there are 15 stitches on my needle, seven of them from the stitches I picked up (minus one because I did ssk).  Do I just purl these seven, then go back and K6 and ssk, then purl those six, turn and K5 and ssk...and so on?  Is that what's supposed to happen?  I wish these directions were clearer.
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soozeq
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008 11:42:27 AM »

Yes, decreasing and using up those sts is what it means to `incorporate all 8 sts from the first triangle' Incorporate them into the SSKs is what it is. And you have it - when you purl back, its on sts you did the row before, so the next purl row would be 7 sts, the next purl row 6, etc. After a couple rows you'll see it.
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lacklustre
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008 11:49:19 AM »

Okay, I've finished the first block of picked-up stitches, and I'm finally starting to see how it's working, although I'm sure I'll come running back for more help when I get tripped up again (which is likely!).  Thanks so much for all of your help and advice, guys! 
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picketywitch
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008 01:54:44 AM »

I have now managed to get the picture tutorial mentioned to load and this has answered the question. Sorry!!

Forgive me for sounding stupid, and I should admit that I've not actually tried entrelac yet (I have another project on the needles at the mo and am making myself finish it before I can "play" with new things).

I understand how to pick up stitches (I think) and know where to get them from, but how does the other side of the work get joined in? The picked up stitches are the "bottom" of the skewed square, and the top and one side of the square will form the base/side of the next pass of squares, but how does the other side get joined to the existing base square? I've read most of the tutorials recommended, but can't get my head round it.

If it's just one of those things that is obvious when it's on the needles, then I'm sorry but I like to try and get my head round a concept before starting a project.

Thanks  Smiley
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