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« on: January 04, 2008 04:15:41 PM »

As many of you know, I have a site where I showcase the websites of other crafters.

From the beginning I wanted to keep the site family friendly - so pure, a 6 year old could visit each and every site and their parents would have no worries.

Many artists create pieces that celebrate the human form. In the past, for the most part if it showed any parts of a body that would normally be covered by a bikini or Speedo, it was out. I did allow an art doll site that has mermaids and similar pieces thinking that most children have seen a Barbie doll naked and it wasn't all that much different.

As my site is growing and I am attracting a wider variety of artisans, this issue is coming up more frequently. Obviously, if the only thing the artist does is nudes, I don't see that as being family friendly. But, when a wonderful artist has a small portion of their pieces that leave nothing to the imagination; I worry that I might be straying from being family friendly.

So, I wonder; how do you define family friendly? Is it 100% free of T&A or is there some percentage that is acceptable? If the exposed pieces are only a tiny percentage of the works and are not showcased in such a way that identifies the piece somehow as "realistic" would you still consider that artist and their work family friendly? Is a display of male anatomy less family-friendly then a display of the female's in your opinion?

Please let me know your opinion as to when something, no matter how beautiful, strays into something you would not want to see on a "family-friendly" website. I don't want to be a prude here, but I do want to maintain a certain standard.

To give you a bit of perspective about where I stand. I think the Demi Moore Vanity Fair cover when she was pregnant is one of the most beautiful pieces I've seen. Racy? Sure, but all of the vital parts were covered and I do not see it as objectionable in any way. My mother firmly disagrees. I also don't have any of my own children, so I don't have a basis for how much they know and when they know it.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2008 06:51:46 AM »

No nudity, sex, violence, references to alcohol, drugs, gangsta or swearing. That's just the way it is. If you want to include other things, you could set up another section, perhaps, where you have to log in to view it. That's the only way to keep it family friendly plus allow for other things. Do I know how to set something like that up? No, I don't!
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itscribe
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2008 07:27:00 AM »

I hear you Crafty Chef. Thank you for your feedback.

I'm thinking that I'm going to need to update my terms of service. It's always tricky when you link to another site as you have no control over what the site/crafter might migrate to. I had this wonderful cake decorating site that I was linking to; a year later the domain name was the same but the content sure wasn't  Shocked - apparently the original owner gave up/sold the site and the new owners were certainly not into cakes.  Lips sealed

The site that brought this up again is for a wonderful batik artist and silk painting artist. Some of his stuff is quite suggestive; other pieces are quite beautiful without being so - a tree or beach scene for example. I had already pretty much discounted him, but it got me to wondering about the next artist.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008 01:39:03 AM »

I'd agree with having a seperate section for artists who deviate from kid friendly content. Remember family friendly could include parent friendly. We don't all have to enjoy teddy bears to appreciate other's works.

Maybe a "discretion should be taken" sort of section. I occasionally deviate and depict women's forms. But it's not anywhere near being pornographic. I mean, my mother has seen them LOL. I'd still not promote graphic or questionable content. But you are dedicated to letting the world view good art.

BTW my parents never sheltered me from the classic works which often included nude humans. I think I got a very rounded picture of the world we live in. Just a thought
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008 09:08:02 AM »

As a mom, to a 10 month old yeah but still a mom, I don't mind some nudity. My son is breatfed, he does, and will for a long time, see boobs. I don't thinka naked woman is to much, but I think some people would. My thing is that people who are so conserative that any naked woman is to much are probably not the type to buy art from certain places? KWIM?

To me it would be to much if it was vaginas, penises (i just realized I don't know how to plural penis) sex, gang stuff, BAD swearing (f, B, etc)

I cracked up laughing during the Simpsons movie when they showed Barts penis, my hubby thought it was crazy and couldn't believe they showed it.

If you'd like PM me your web address and I'll point out if anything seems like it's to much or on the cusp.

At a very family friendly Renns fest in my state there was a place selling prints, like wood carved prints, and there were some extremely racy ones (like a woman with a dildo, very interesting) and they just had it covered with a cloth. All of teh adult ones were in a seperate little space. Perhaps you could do a password coded room for "risky" stuff? Parents and people who do want it just request the password, kids can't see it by accident.
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itscribe
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008 08:27:32 PM »

I do already link to one site that has a bit of nudity - but, it's dolls and fairies. Can't imagine there's too many kids out there that haven't seen Barbie's boobs.  Grin

There's another that makes clothing out of chain maille and has a bikini thong. While you do see two cheeks in their full glory  Wink it would seem to not be something I wouldn't want a child of mine to see.

On the other hand, the site that led to my question includes full front on paintings of a woman and side-on views of a man who I am guessing is the artist and his girlfriend/wife. He is a talented artist, but IMHO his revealing pictures have a certain creepiness about them.  Shocked I love his other work, but it is mixed in with the questionable stuff.

While the idea of having a 'censored' area has merit, it also adds a whole new level of complexity to maintaining the site and a risky one to ensure that all members are of age. I could also see it turning into a peep show kind of thing.

I'm thinking that the best course would be to add some sort of statement explaining that the family friendly nature of my website prohibits me from accepting sites that have realistic nudity (or some similar expression). And perhaps include something about nudity common in any playroom (i.e. Barbie) would be considered on a case-by-case basis.

How does that sound?

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008 07:52:38 AM »

I'm thinking that the best course would be to add some sort of statement explaining that the family friendly nature of my website prohibits me from accepting sites that have realistic nudity (or some similar expression). And perhaps include something about nudity common in any playroom (i.e. Barbie) would be considered on a case-by-case basis.

How does that sound?



Sounds good to me.  Those particular paintings sound innappropriate.  It's just a kind way of saying "Hey wanna be on my site, drop the schlong stuff" lol
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