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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2005 01:03:04 AM »

there's a long and short version to make seitan, both of which use soy sauce, so just insert your sauce alternative, since it's just for flavoring you could just add more garlic or any other seasoning.  Or, since so many vegetarian recipes call for soy sauce and tamari, you could try this: http://www.japan-101.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-27.html

Long:
12 cups (4lbs) whole wheat flour
3 1/2 quarts water
     Put flour in large bowl and add enough of the water to make a soft dough (about 5 cups or so).  Knead this for 5 minutes, then add enough water to cover your dough and let it rest 15 min.

While it rests, boil together:
1 onion cut up
1 crushed garlic clove
small piece of kombu
1/2 cup of soy sauce*
2 Quarts water

After your 15 min. are up, put the bowl in the sink and knead until the water turns starchy - drain off that water and cover the dough with fresh water and knead again.  You keep doing this until the water is almost clear.  Now you have a raw seitan "roast".  You would stop here if your recipe calls for raw, otherwise make 3 equal pieces and add to the pot to simmer for 1 hour do not boil! it has to cook long and slow to get the meaty texture.

Short:
In a saucepan, bring 4 cups water, 1/4 cup soy sauce*, and a piece of kombu to a boil, meanwhile:

In a large bowl, mix:
2 cups whole wheat flour
1 tsp garlic powder
1 tsp ginger powder

In a large measuring cup, mix:
1 1/4 cups water or veggie stock
3 TB soy sauce*
1-3 tsp sesame oil

Add the liquid to the dry ingredients, knead 10-15 times and let rest 5 min.  Knead again and let rest 15 min.  Cut into 6-8 pieces and stretch into cutlets or desired shape and simmer in broth for 1 hour do not boil!


Only the long version is really wheat gluten, the short version is more like a meaty pasta since it still has all of the starch.
Hope this helps!

I'd also like to second the bean burgers! 


Edited to add:  Flax is great, but make sure it's milled (ground) because people have trouble digesting the hull and getting the goodness out of the seed.

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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2005 10:41:15 PM »

update!
my friend has now been meat free for two weeks (impressive since all i've ever known him to eat is chicken, chicken, and more chicken.
this weekend i whipped up a nutty-mushroom burgers (portabella mushrooms, walnuts, roasted garlic, onion, sunflower seeds, flour, basil and a few other spices) using a local place's vegetarian burger as inspiration.
we also tried seitan super good but waaay to expensive.
quorn also looks way too expensive to afford on a comic book store salary.

this weekend we're going to make seitan the long and short way so thanks so much for the recipe absintheminded.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2005 12:39:39 AM »

Good for your friend -- m ost people would use the allergy as an excuse to never go veg.
Just so he knows --- TVP is not  made from soy products, it is from vegetable proteins (at least the stuff I have seen)
He should also make sure that his allergy isn't to something like magnesium which is used to process tofu.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2005 09:06:49 PM »

Good for your friend -- m ost people would use the allergy as an excuse to never go veg.
Just so he knows --- TVP is not  made from soy products, it is from vegetable proteins (at least the stuff I have seen)
He should also make sure that his allergy isn't to something like magnesium which is used to process tofu.

thanks!  my friend has had allergic reactions to different soy products so it's probably not magnesium.
i've never seen any without soy protein as one of the third or so ingredients do you have any suggestions for brands?

also thanks to everyone for the info on the seitan.  it's super easy to make and the left over broth makes a great stew.
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2005 12:25:13 AM »

Yay for you guys!

I'm glad the seitan worked out for you, too! 
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2005 03:29:41 AM »

its hard enough to go veg/vegan..but to be allergic to tofu and such...eek...id look on the internet for recipes and ideas for food to buy...and as far as satan i mean seitan being expensive, thats somewhat part of being vegan for me...i mean some of it is actually either the same price or a little less...also try the ethnic markets around you...we get alot of stuff at the asian one...good luck
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