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caprig
« on: September 22, 2007 10:15:46 AM »

WHY did I do this?

I went to the fiber fest and like a dope bought a rigid heddle loom.  I wanted to weave (having just conquered the world of spinning this year) and knowing very little about the whole thing, I asked around, looked around and decided to purchase the kromski harp loom- 24"

I was very excited at first, until I realized that I know nothing about looms and what I can do on this thing.  So, I sit here day after day glaring at the loom and then wondering if I made a mistake.

But then again, I did the same thing with my first spinning wheel purchase last year.  Then I ended up making that huge rainbow coat I just finished a few weeks ago.

So, anyone out there have any kind of inspiration for me?  I am completely in the dark on what to start with.

Eventually I want to weave fabric for clothing use.  However, I am hoping that I did not mess up - that I should not have gotten the 36" instead.  I just did not want overkill and something so huge that I would never use it.

Any help at all for inspiration and directions on what the heck to do with this thing is greatly appreciated!

I don't know what to use for warp - and what my possibilities are at ALL!

*looks at Kromsky Harp loom glaringly again and sighs*
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chipper
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2007 04:33:22 PM »

Don't glare at the Kromski  Wink  She will treat you well, I promise!  Smiley  I own the 32" Harp and absolutely LOVE it. 

It should have come with a vhs or dvd that will show you how to put it together and how to warp it.  Throw that in the appropriate machine and give it a watch. 

Then once you have it put together, if you still don't have an exact project in mind to start, put any old warp on there and just start weaving.  think of it as practice and learning.  You don't have to do anything with the resulting fabric, but you just might be surprised and love what you get.  My big tip would be don't put a warp on that's too horribly long.  That way you won't feel like you have to weave something that you hate forever.  But at the same time make it long enough that you can play with some various weights of yarn just to see what you get.

Heck, you already amazed us with your rainbow coat, I have a feeling that it won't be long and you'll be knocking us over with an amazing piece of woven fabric!!!

Good luck and quit glaring!  Smiley
--chipp
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caprig
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2007 02:14:24 PM »

*chuckle*

I KNEW that I could find some solace here at craftster!

I am in the process of dying wool for my new peacock coat today- I managed to get the mix of colors PERFECT for the base feather color.  Then I am going to spin tiny lime/chartreuse silk fibers with it for the yarn.  When I ply it, I am going to spin in some actual peacock fronds too, but not sure exactly how yet- I might just put it in each ply of the two ply yarn.

Anyway, Thanks for the encouragement.  When harvest has slowed down, I might just try to see if I can weave.  I have some different yarns from the dollar store that I might be able to use as my first warps so perhaps I will do that and see how it goes.

What kind of things can I do on my Harp?  I got so disappointed when someone told me that it was not a REAL loom and that I wasted my money (at the fiber fest).  I think that is part of my problem.  I feel like someone cut me off at the knees.

I hope that I did not make a mistake not getting the 32" though.

Oh well.

Any input is greatly valued- THANK YOU for taking the time to write- I appreciate it SO much.

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chipper
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007 11:37:03 AM »

Thought I'd add that the yarns I first started out with as warps are carpet warp (cotton) like this http://www.yarnbarn-ks.com/products.asp?dept=329  and Harrisville yarns (wool) like these  http://www.harrisville.com/html/yarns.html   (scroll down a bit to the Classic Line for Weavers, either the shetland or the highland style).

The Harrisville colors are amazingly beautiful.  They may feel a bit stiff and wimpy right off the cone, but once washed and dried, it is heavenly!  I used it for baby blankets for my kids.  You can get a color card from them too.  The yarns plump up beautifully.

I only used the cotton once (I'm a wool girl, myself Smiley ) but I doubled the strands in every "space" and used single strands in the "holes" and then doubled the weft.  I don't have any pics of the finished piece but it did make for a nice fabric.  A friend wanted a pink, she said "like the breast cancer pink," shawl/warp.  She didn't like wool and really wanted cotton.  I found the carpet warp and the ladies at the store I bought it from said it washed up lovely and not stiff and carpet-y at all.  They were right.  the resulting shawl/wrap (what do you call it? Smiley ) was beautiful and soft when all done.  But, and its a big but, I was so sick of looking at all that pink on the loom Smiley  I kept telling people that it looked like my loom had thrown up Pepto Bismal Smiley

I haven't really done much weaving with my own handspun yet, mostly because I only have around 140 yards or so of any given color.   I have heard from some people who do not "set" their handspun if they are going to weave with it so that it can "bloom" when the fabric is set.  But, I have heard of weavers that always set their handspun too so I guess like all of our fiber pursuits, we can just practice, experiment and do what ever we want Smiley

You've made me realize that it has been awhile since I wove on my Harp and maybe I should get my butt in gear Smiley  Thanks!
--chipp
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2007 03:50:51 PM »

The best tip I got when I started weaving was NOT to expect your first project to be anything - just to warp your loom and play around and get comfortable with everything.  If you set out to make something/anything in particular, you'll have a miserable time. 

Good luck!
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007 04:28:25 PM »

Those Kromski looms look the dogs whatsits (as we say in the UK), I'd love one! I've got a Harris table loom I'm in the middle of repairing so I can start and I really wish I'd got a simpler one like the Kromski to begin with.

The best advice I was given was to try and find a weaving group that's local to you and ask them for help. I did and found them to be very helpful and willing to guide your first steps on the weaving path.
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caprig
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2007 07:23:17 AM »

The best tip I got when I started weaving was NOT to expect your first project to be anything - just to warp your loom and play around and get comfortable with everything.  If you set out to make something/anything in particular, you'll have a miserable time. 

Good luck!

Good advice.  I was just thinking that.  I am debating what to use as my first warp because I don't want to use something TOO good since it will be just experiment, but I don't want to use something too yucky since it might be too hard to work with.........

I am thinking of switching it for the 32" instead of 24 this weekend. 
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caprig
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2007 07:25:23 AM »

Those Kromski looms look the dogs whatsits (as we say in the UK), I'd love one! I've got a Harris table loom I'm in the middle of repairing so I can start and I really wish I'd got a simpler one like the Kromski to begin with.

The best advice I was given was to try and find a weaving group that's local to you and ask them for help. I did and found them to be very helpful and willing to guide your first steps on the weaving path.

If only we had a group where I live.  I am in a very rural area and the closest group I know of is an hour away- not something I can go to.  Sad

With gas/petrol as expensive as it is round here, it just would not work for me.  I don't even know anyone that weaves that lives closer than that either. 

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chipper
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2007 08:21:43 AM »

you could try contacting the group because many times the members are widespread and maybe one of the members lives near you and would like to have someone close by too.  Just a suggestion.
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caprig
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007 09:41:43 AM »

you could try contacting the group because many times the members are widespread and maybe one of the members lives near you and would like to have someone close by too.  Just a suggestion.

That is a possibility- I will have to check that out.  Thanks!
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Grimnir
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2007 09:51:01 AM »

That's what happened with me Smiley the lady who runs the local branch of the Weavers, spinners and dyers guild actually lives in my town and has offered to help me. I wasn't expecting anyone to be that close really.
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caprig
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2007 09:54:38 AM »

That's what happened with me Smiley the lady who runs the local branch of the Weavers, spinners and dyers guild actually lives in my town and has offered to help me. I wasn't expecting anyone to be that close really.

That would be cool.

The people that I got the loom from are about 1/2 hour away, but it is hard to get there - lots of hills and rural roads make it a rough trip to take often.

They can help me though once in a great while.

I just am kinda lost as to what to do with this yet. 
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quatzical
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2007 12:32:22 PM »

Hi! I replied to you on the spinners' board but oooh ooh, it's great you got the Kromski Harp...I've been eyeing it since it first came out, but I already have a cheapo rigid heddle I got off ebay.

Rigid heddle looms are awesome! I have two huge floor looms and a decent sized table loom as well, but sometimes the rigid heddle loom is the best for a project. You can do tons with plain weave and hand-manipulated weaves take a little longer but are lots of fun. In my first weaving class, we worked on table looms at school, but our teacher loaned us each rigid heddle looms so we could play around with them at home.

Hands On Rigid Heddle Weaving by Betty Linn Davenport is a great book to learn everything from scratch. It covers all the basics as well as fancier techniques and even has some simple clothes (tops) to inspire you. It has a discussion on type of yarns, color, design, etc...
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caprig
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2007 03:07:36 PM »

Oh boy!

I am excited!

I remember when several people told me at the fiber fest where I got the rigid heddle that it was not a REAL loom, I got depressed.  I hate making a bad purchase decision. 

I am hoping I can push this thing to limits like I do everything else I do.  The unexpected, you know?

I am going to get the stand so I can use it wherever I want in my tiny little house.  I did manage to trade in from the 24 to the 32 inch loom and I think in the long run I will appreciate the flexibility.

Thanks for answering- and I will try to get that book too.  I got a dog eared copy from the library, but I think I will want a copy of my own to refer back to all year.

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2007 06:28:59 PM »

Not a 'real' loom!  What pious, uppity, so-an-so snobs!

Shoot, next thing you know they'll say tablet cards, frame loom, back strap loom, tapesty loom or inkle loom aren't 'real' looms!

I feel sorry for them for being so limited in their vision of what weaving and looms are!

I've woven on weave-its and cardboard looms.  I have a H-D T/6, a couple RH and a 4H table loom, couple sets of tablets, tri-loom & frame looms.  They are all looms!

I lusted after the Harp but since I have 2 Rh looms already, I found a great deal on a 4 harness J-loom from ebay
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2007 12:20:54 PM »

I am so glad to see you say that!

I am such a visual person that if I see someone doing something on a RH loom, I would easily be able to spin off of it.

I will probably just spend some time messing with it in a few weeks and try some unconventional techniques.  I guess since I know nothing about weaving (other than potholders in grade school) I will not have to be inhibited, eh?

I think I am getting the vision for it now.  I found a project on schadt (sp) for a table runner with a winter scene and trees woven in- that really inspired me so now I can try to do something with that and spin off of it.

That same person did not like superwash and refuses to use it- but I find it is the only fiber I can use on most things- my family is the type to toss my stuff in the washer and not ask questions until it is too late.

I am NOT going to risk that!  All of that work to be destroyed in under an hour? FORGET IT!

*chuckle* 

I guess if you live alone that would not be a problem though.

I know nobody close to me that weaves that I can sit and watch on a RH- that would help - I think. 

Maybe not.

I will be sure to post some photos when I finally DO get to mess around.  Someone gave me a ton of acrylic yarn to play with so I plan to have fun with it.

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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2008 02:25:05 PM »

If your loom is still in the box - when you reach the point of putting it together there will be a step involving (nylon?) cord. Matched lengths of cord are used to attach dowels that attach to your warp (cloth beam and warp beam.) I have heard that the instructions tell you to use candle flames to singe the ends of the cord to the correct length and then join the ends. You do not have to get the cord to the correct length as long as you tie each cord to the same length. Mark the same length on each cord and make a knot which goes as close as possible to the marks. The ends should be quick singed but you won't be melting cord all day.
We got to take our looms home this week from class. Wheeee!!
My class is working on a piece that is 7" wide and 2.5 yds long to get the hang of a few bits of weaving. Then we will do one scarf where we all have the same warp (tussah silk) and each person designs their scarf from there. There is a photo gallery of a previous class:
http://www.newvoyager.com/harpart.html
I am very excited.
Hen
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caprig
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2008 02:35:03 PM »

I finally did it!  I am working on my first scarf. STarted as an acrylic scarf because my mom hates wool and silk, but I decided it would be too stiff for her.

I am doing a free form scarf of sorts- I will try to post a photo of what I am doing when it is done- I am about 2/3 of the way through it.

I really like it, but I have to take breaks from it or I obsess over it and stress myself out.  This is not a craft for impatient speedy people, that is for sure- and goal oriented is a bit rough too- it moves along so slowly.

But I do love my loom so far.

I have been spinning up some tussah silk to use on there for a scarf, but have been afraid to do it as I don't want to screw up something so hard to get and EXPENSIVE

Cheesy

BTW, there are some great things there at the link you gave me- I am loving the random stuff that looks all free style- it is fun to do!
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2008 07:23:03 AM »

Good for you!!

I will be looking forward to pictures!
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