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jpants
« on: January 21, 2004 09:00:04 AM »

Can someone please help me understand decreases.  I'm working on the Knitty Fuzzy Feet slippers.  They have both a knit 2 together decrease and a ssk decrease.  I've been looking at the directions in Stitch and Bitch for these two stitches and they seem to be the same thing to me.  I'm right at the section (the gusset) where you use both, and it seems to be going fine, but I'm worried that I'm doing something wrong.  Can anyone enlighten me?
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knittykat
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2004 09:21:48 AM »

When I first was knitting I had your very same question.  The answer is that a k2tog makes a decrease stitch slanting to the left, while an ssk makes a decrease slanting to the right.  When you're making something that has sides, i.e. a halter top, you want your decreases to go in line with the fabric.  

Hope this helps!  Cheesy
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jpants
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2004 09:28:39 AM »

Thanks, knittykat.  I understand that they are supposed to slant different ways, I'm more concerned that I'm doing one of them wrong because what I do when I knit 2 tog seems to me to be the same thing I'm doing when I ssk, in terms of making the actual stitch.
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babyjoy726
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2004 09:38:47 AM »

i tended to avoid all projects that required decreasing for a while because of this!   no worries, the thing to remember is k2tog you enter the 2nd loop as if to knit (from the left of the stitch).  ssk you do it from the right side of the stitches, then do the knit.  there are sites with video clips out there too... visual is always better when it comes to learning knitting techniques.
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knittykat
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2004 09:44:13 AM »

Yeah, some pics will probably be helpful in learning SSK.  It is definitely different than K2 tog.  I will try to explain, never know   Wink

Slip both stitches knitwise (like you're gonna knit 'em) onto the right hand needle.  Insert your left hand needle into both stitches from left to right.  Grab the yarn and pull it through both stitches at once.  It's kind of strange.  You have to do it once and then you'll be all excited and you'll wanna do it more!  It's almost mystical the way it happens.  Try it and if it still ain't happenin, see if you can download a video.

Good luck
K
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babyjoy726
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2004 09:58:18 AM »

ack!  don't pay attention to me!  i wrote down the wrong thing!  Lips sealed  totally my bad.... *head down in shame*
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jpants
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2004 10:03:01 AM »

knittykat-for ssk, i wrap the yarn around the right hand needle to pull through?
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knittykat
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2004 10:13:32 AM »

Left hand needle.  Your stitches will be on the right hand needle.  Stick in the left hand needle from the left side and grab the yarn on the right side of the stitches, and pull it to the left.  I think we're gettin' there!

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jpants
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2004 10:33:49 AM »

ooh! ooh!  i think i got it.  i was wrapping the yarn around the right hand needle, just like i would to knit 2 tog and that's why i was so confused.
i think i see the light!  thank you so much!  i'm going to go home and try it straight away!  (after work that is!)
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knittykat
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2004 10:54:28 AM »

Glad I could actually help!  Let me know how it turns out.  

Kat
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knittykat
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2004 08:17:18 AM »

Oooh, jpants, I goofed!  I was trying to visualize ssk in my head but I didn't have any knitting (hard to type and knit at the same time)  I was knitting last night.  You are right, you wrap the yarn around the right hand needle and draw it through.  But it still turns out different than k2tog.

Slip both stitches on the right hand needle.  Insert left hand needle left to right in stitches.  Wrap yarn around right hand needle and draw through.  

Good luck, hopefully I didn't screw you up too badly!   Embarrassed
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jpants
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2004 08:29:07 AM »

Not to worry.  I actually didn't have time to work on the project last night.  I was able to find some video clips of both stitches like you suggested and I think I've got it.  I'm sure once i've done it enough times it will make perfect sense.
thanks!
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babyjoy726
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2004 08:31:40 AM »

hold on... i'm confused now... was i right then?  see... this is why i stayed away from decreases!  lol  Tongue
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knittykat
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2004 09:13:12 AM »

babyjoy, you were almost correct.  The difference is when you ssk you enter the stitches from the left (because they are already on the right hand needle), rather than from the right.

And don't be afraid of decreasing.  Once you do it a few times you'll be like "I was afraid of doing that???"  Wink
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