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tigerita
« on: May 28, 2007 02:07:37 AM »

i'm working on my first top of my own design, and i'd like to use short rows for bust shaping, but i've only ever used them on symmetrical pieces, and i'm not sure if they would work on something like what i'm trying to do:





i've knit the bottom part separately, and i want to do the top part as a top-down raglan in one piece, then fold the two front pieces over when i sew it to the bottom.  is it possible to do short rows where i have the pink?  or do they have to be done on a symmetrical piece where the whole piece is taken up by the short row section?

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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2007 03:01:00 AM »

if you have access to the SnB knitting books, there's a jacket called prepster - and the front shaping is done in short rows - and it's from the side seams (so that pink line would be horizontal, rather than vertical like you have it)

you may want to check some other patterns as well, see how the short shaping seems to work out? (i'm a good technician, give me a pattern and I can follow it)
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007 06:47:00 AM »

Thanks Dulcinea!  I had a look at that jacket, but it's crochet and i'm not sure if it would be the same for knitting...

I haven't found any patterns that use short rows on an asymmetrical shape before, and the impression that i have is that it takes up most of the piece of knitting, you can't just knit half of it normally and do short rows on the other half.   i could be totally wrong about this though, as i've only ever made one thing involving short rows, so i was hoping that someone who knows more about them than i do could either confirm or deny this...

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007 10:18:31 AM »

if you weren't wanting to do top down, but instead do the top bit side to side, i would've thought that http://knitty.com/ISSUEspring05/PATTw.html would be adaptable to your needs?
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007 11:30:54 AM »

Pretty much, wherever you want the shaping, you can do short rows -

what happens is this....  you're knitting along - and you have a portion of your knitting that needs to have more shape - some extra knitting there, where you don't need it in other places (like the bust of your top) - so that portion that needs extra shaping, you do some extra knitting there....

and you can go back and forth using the wrap and turn (I think that's what W&T stands for) method - it prevents the little gaps that you might otherwise have.....

my bet says you can look up W&T on google, though there's a pretty good explanation in the SnB book, as well as here:
http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/advanced_techniques/
(scroll down almost to the bottom of the page)

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Thanks Dulcinea!  I had a look at that jacket, but it's crochet and i'm not sure if it would be the same for knitting...

I haven't found any patterns that use short rows on an asymmetrical shape before, and the impression that i have is that it takes up most of the piece of knitting, you can't just knit half of it normally and do short rows on the other half.   i could be totally wrong about this though, as i've only ever made one thing involving short rows, so i was hoping that someone who knows more about them than i do could either confirm or deny this...

thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007 01:29:50 AM »

thanks!  i'm still not 100% clear on it, but i think the only way for me to get my head around it is to just do it and see how it turns out... i think i get it *enough* that i should be able to figure it out by playing around... thanks for the advice...
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