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mgodby86
« on: May 16, 2007 01:09:35 PM »

Hi everyone

I have been experimenting with transfer methods lately and have had a lot of success with baking the transfer right onto the clay with images obtained from a photocopy. I have been using black and white clip art type designs and hand coloring them with colored pencils.

They have been turning out great! Except for one thing. I've noticed that the outlines  (the black part from the original image), do not really stay black. They are a bit faded (although consistently) and have a slight purple color to them.

In most cases, I like the effect, but I'd also like to try and keep the black parts the way they are. Is there anyway to do this? I know recent copies work better, but I copied a ton of images and I don't want them to go to waste.

Thanks!
Meghan
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2007 12:26:50 PM »

I'm not really sure why that's happening as long as you are using toner.  The original white Sculpey in a box loves to turn purplish if it's over-baked (even at its normal baking temp), and some blacks will fade in sufficient ultraviolet light, but not sure aside from those things.

If you do leave your transferred items in sunlight or other UV light (fluorescent, etc.) consistently, they could be fading for that reason.  In that case, keep them elsewhere or coat them with a UV resistant acrylic (like Varathane... not Future though since it's not).

Seems like there might have been something else about colors fading or turning other colors at my site, but can't remember now.  If you want,  you can check these likely pages though:

http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/transfers.htm

http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/outdoor_snowglobes_fountains.htm
(... click on Polymer Used in Sun, Weather...)


HTH at least a bit...

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mgodby86
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2007 02:23:23 PM »

Hi Diane

Thanks for your input. I'm not positive they were made with toner. I used the copy center at Staples. I was thinking that maybe since I've had the copies for a few weeks now, that they may have lost intensity?

I'm burnishing them onto unbaked clay, then placing a tile down on them for weight while baking. I am using the thickest setting on my pasta machine (which I finally bought!), and baking for 15 minutes at 275 degrees.

The first time I did it, I removed the tile with a potholder while it was still hot and when I removed the paper found that the image did not transfer completely. When I let the tile cool completely, however, and then remove it, the image is perfect (except the purple lines). Do you think baking it for less time would maybe help? The clay that has no image on it is of normal color.

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007 03:28:46 PM »

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I'm not positive they were made with toner. I used the copy center at Staples.


If you made them on a "photocopier," they were toner.  Some of the newer and/or more expensive computer printers use toner these days instead of ink, but don't think the other way around is true.  Are you sure you weren't using a scanner/inkjet printer unit?  Things like that are getting really confusing these days, they come in so many combinations.  An inkjet will definitely produce a lighter copy if it transfers at all.

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I was thinking that maybe since I've had the copies for a few weeks now, that they may have lost intensity?

Toner copies do work somewhat better when fresh, but the age of the machine can matter too re the best quality of toner... older copiers tend to have denser or more opaque.  Don't know that that was your problem though. 

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I'm burnishing them onto unbaked clay, then placing a tile down on them for weight while baking. I am using the thickest setting on my pasta machine (which I finally bought!), and baking for 15 minutes at 275 degrees.. . . Do you think baking it for less time would maybe help?


Most people who do transfers don't heat the clay that long if they even do use heat --I think Dotty McMillan's old original technique for color photocopies called for only 5-7 minutes and some have suggested as few as 2 minutes.  So you might try that.  Again, look on my Transfers page for those and other lessons on doing toner copies to get all the details. 
(The type of paper may also matter, as well as many other variables though.)


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