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« on: January 13, 2004 09:55:55 PM »

im trying to get a crafty website set up! But im so clueless. what exactly is hosting? is that something i need! and how do i get the stuff onto the page once i buy it? i was gonna buy a page from godaddy.com, but im really clueless and dont wanna buy things i dont need!

 i know lots of you  have crafty sites out there which you sell your crafts, any one wanna help me out, ill post your links and what not on my site, or send you some crafts!  

       Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2004 10:18:31 PM »

1. you need hosting. that is where all the pages for your website reside.

2. godaddy.com is great for domains.  

3.  you will probably need something like WS-FTP to upload your pages if your host does not provide a serivce for you to upload directly from their site.  

I know this is basic, but keep the questions coming.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2004 06:44:39 AM »

As lilyblue said, you need hosting -- this is not what you'd be ordering from godaddy -- godaddy just supplies your domain name, the address of your site.  Your host is the Web server (like a big hard drive) that stores your site and delivers them to your undying fans.  Also as lilyblue noted you need an FTP program (WS-FTP or CuteFTP on PC, Fetch on a Mac, etc) that sends your files to your Web server.  It's much much easier than it sounds, I swear!

I normally don't promote the company I work for (actually I don't think I ever have!), but you might benefit a lot from a course we have called Web Site 101 which goes over all of these features for you and walks you through the process of getting your domain name, setting up your hosting, and even uploading (FTPing) your very first pages to your host.  You can find it at sessions.edu -- it's a 3 lesson online course with an instructor.  It's a little pricey but it would give you a really good foundation in how the process works.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2004 06:20:48 PM »

okay, im a little less confused now,

where do i get hosting from? any site that you deal with that are reputable? what do i use to build my site? is that what the FTp program is for? is that something i buy at a computer store?, do i need a program that will help me build the site? Huh
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2004 06:32:26 PM »

Shop around for hosting -- you'll need to find a plan that fits your budgets and your site needs (in terms of amount of storage it offers, email accounts, and other features).  I personally use lunarpages.com.  But don't buy hosting until you're actually ready to put pages on the Web (though you may want to buy your domain name asap so it doesn't get taken).

FTP stands for file transfer protocol -- it's the means of getting your files to your server (your host), but it is not used to build the pages.  You can download an FTP program online.  

If you're totally new to building Web pages, you might be best off paying someone to do the site design for you, as it will take a fair amount of time to learn HTML and/or an HTML editor program -- and you'll need to learn a graphics program as well.

I really think you'd benefit a lot from a basic site course to help you understand the terminology, programs, and options involved with building your Web site.  Or look into a workshop at a local college, or at least some books on Web design and Web sites for beginners, for example: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596000367/ref=pd_sim_books_3/103-5305771-7267808?v=glance&s=books
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2004 08:32:34 AM »

you can also go here:

http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/authoring/html_basics/

to get the basics down.  They will epxlain everything for you.

One piece of advice that I got early on is to go to a page you like and look at the source code.  See what each tag does.  That helped me a lot.

Let me just get this out of the way.  There is no use in getting programs like Dreamweaver if you don't have HTML knowledge.  
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2004 09:54:50 AM »

You might already have MS FrontPage on your computer...That is what I had used to do my site.  Once I learned some quick basics from http://www.htmlgoodies.com/html4-ref/  I was able to use FrontPage pretty easily.  I don't have my site anymore, but once I got started...everythin g got easier and easier.  Some sites will do your hosting and your domain name, so you can check into that.  There are also free FTP programs on CNET you can try http://download.com.com/3000-2160-10252208.html?tag=lst-0-2
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2004 09:59:37 AM »

Does anyone know of a good web stats program? (pref. free) I switched servers recently, and I don't think my new host offers that service...
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2004 10:07:27 AM »

I use GoLive, which I love.  I'm just starting to learn myself. About a month ago I was clueless about how to do any of this.  With GoLive you don't really need to know html.  I design everything in photoshop and transfer it over to GoLive.  It's very basic.  I'm sure there is better ways for all of this but for a beginner, it's great.  The bad side...it's not free.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2004 06:23:11 PM »

Thank ou all for the advice!

i think im gonna try to get this dude thats doing my boyfriends band site to do mine, but im still gonna try and learn!


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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2004 06:55:55 PM »

auntbeep's website is very very cool
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2004 08:54:54 AM »

auntbeep's website is very very cool

Well thank you , Goddess! What a nice thing to read first thing on a Monday morning!  Smiley

To VaguelyVogue, I agree w/ plainmabel- you might want to get someone to design it for you.  I worked out a deal with my web designer where she sets up the layout and graphics on the site, and I add content and all the paypal buttons.  This gives her less work, and keeps her costs lower, but still allows me to have an attractive site and the expertise of someone who does this for a living.  
I taught myself how to use Dreamweaver (which is what she designs on) we share all the files and upload on the same FTP account for my site.  
Everyday I learn a little bit more about Photoshop or Dreamweaver, which lets me update my site as I see fit, instead of having to wait/pay for my designer to update for me.
It's a bit tricky to get the realtionship flowing at first, but worth it!
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2004 03:08:45 PM »

If you want to learn how, sign up for a free host and then just pay or get a free redirect (http://www.tk, http://issweet.net, http://www.cjb.net, etc).  Some free hosts I've worked with:
brinkster.com
0catch.com
angelfire.com
fateback.com

Most also have upgrading later so once your site gets more reputable and you learn more HTML and stuff, you can pay a small price to upgrade and have no ads and you won't have to worry about moving your whole site.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2004 05:26:14 PM »

I agree with aunt beep, dreamweaver and photoshop are awesome if you can afford them (mucho expensive...both are top of the line).  I've been fiddling around with dreamweaver for a little bit, and am versed in HTML, and it seems that you can kind of manuever around it without knowing much HTML.  Frontpage is also like this too, and is good for just learning.
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2004 08:13:31 AM »

Hi:

If you need a shopping cart, check out:
http://www.mals-e.com/

We used the free version for over a year before growing to the point where we upgraded to some of the nice to have features.  

Many crafters stay with the free version.  Cheesy
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