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tinyplasticmeat
« on: February 14, 2007 01:25:51 AM »

I'd like to knit something like this, but with lace inserts instead of dropped yarn-overs.

Is that at all possible? Are there certain lace stitches that would lend themselves well to such a thing?

I'd love any help you can all give!
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djinnj
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2007 03:29:33 AM »

take a gauge in your yarn, find a very small lace pattern you like that will fit your gauge, take a gauge in pattern so you can adjust your stitch count accordingly (because it will differ from stockinette).

Chart the lace insert out in the V shape, and I'd use directional decreases to emphasize the edges of the V.  Sometimes the lace pattern itself will compensate for the decreases, or you can throw m1 in at the edge to compensate more invisibly.

There's no quick way about it because every lace pattern is different, and you'll have to compensate for the pattern on the edge because of the directional aspect of lace, as well as the fact that you want the pattern to increase in width every so many rows, while maintaining a clean demarcation between the two.  That said, it's not hard.  A bit of graph paper and a pencil, and it'll become clear quite easily.  And swatching the panel to double check how the lace is working out would be easy enough since it's small.
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crnaofca
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2007 07:16:55 AM »

http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=149534.0

this reminds me a bit on something you are trying to make. maybe author has some directons or pattern written?
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tinyplasticmeat
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007 07:41:32 AM »

djinnj--I'm a little confused. I found a couple of patterns I like--this one in particular--but it faces the wrong way for what I want to do.

(I used only the portion of the chart that actually has to do with the leaves and left out the rest of it when I swatched.)

I plan on knitting top-down, in the round, and having the lace insert start out wider on top and decrease down into a V-shape. But this pattern (and a lot of others I've found, unless they're square) knits from the narrowest point to the widest.

Is there any way to flip it over? I can't figure out if I'm supposed to increase where it decreases and vice-versa, or if there's something else special to do in lace that reverses this stuff.

Thanks again!
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djinnj
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007 10:23:19 AM »

djinnj--I'm a little confused. I found a couple of patterns I like--this one in particular--but it faces the wrong way for what I want to do.

(I used only the portion of the chart that actually has to do with the leaves and left out the rest of it when I swatched.)

I plan on knitting top-down, in the round, and having the lace insert start out wider on top and decrease down into a V-shape. But this pattern (and a lot of others I've found, unless they're square) knits from the narrowest point to the widest.

Is there any way to flip it over? I can't figure out if I'm supposed to increase where it decreases and vice-versa, or if there's something else special to do in lace that reverses this stuff.

Thanks again!

Lace patterns which rely on directional decreases for their appearance as this one does are not reversible because an increase will break the line which a decrease will emphasize.  You can try reversing it, but it will never look as sharp. 

There are lots of patterns which decrease to a point, actually more of them decrease to a point (because that gives a sharp demarcation) than work in reverse.  I suggest finding some good stitch pattern books and paging through them until something catches your eye.  The first and second Walker stitch treasuries would be my first stop.

Keep in mind that using a leaf pattern like this one which divides in the middle to create a pair might not work out well because when your panel narrows to the point, you'll be out of space for the lace portion and will have to figure out how to fill the space in keeping with the rest of the panel.  And if the panel is very small, the whole motif won't fit.
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