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« on: January 20, 2007 11:00:41 PM »

Alright, I'm not sure what this is called, but I'm having a problem.
I'm just starting on kittyville from stitch n bitch, but figured I should post this here because it's more of a general knitting in the round question. 
So, I had this problem on circs first, then decided to try dpns to see if it was any different, but no, same problem.  Anyway, here, sorry my yarn is the same color as my couch, haha:

and yeah, I have knit a bit of this- 1/3 of the way around the first time to be precise, though it's hard to tell

see how LONG the yarn is in between the last stitch I knit and the one I'm about to knit?  And it gets longer with every stitch I knit, making it almost impossible to go around even once, because it gets SO long, especially because mission falls seems extra prone to tangling and splitting... so this piece of yarn just keeps tangling and stuff.  I guess something similar happens to me in regular knitting as well (with that piece getting longer as I go), but when I get to the end of the row I just tighten it up and go on knitting just find.  However, in the round there is no place you can do that... is there?  Or how do I fix it?  On circs, dpns, or anything?

Oh, and I did knit successfully in the round once before- just a little test thingy quite a while ago, and I didn't have much of a problem, but I can't figure out what I'm doing differently here.

Anyway, I hope this is the right place for this, and I did search, but I wasn't exactly sure what to look for, so I didn't find anything.  Anyway, please help if you can!  Thanks! Smiley

If you need me to clarify anything that I'm having issues with, let me know, and I can always take more pictures.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007 11:08:55 PM »

Are you using a backward loop cast-on? That always happens to me when I use that method. It's so bad I switched to using a long tail cast-on instead. When I have to add stitches in the middle of a project, I use a knitted cast on by turning my work, casting on, then turning back. I've never had much luck with backward loop, despite how easy it is.

On flat knits, I've found that the long bit of yarn just works itself out of the fabric at the end of the row, but I'm not sure how that would work in the round. You might have to knit around completely before joining the round.

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2007 02:54:38 AM »

happens to me when I backwards loop cast on, so a long tail cast-on is better.  Long tail can be tricky with Douple Points and if you are having difficulties you can cast on to a straight needle and slip to your double points.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007 08:36:51 AM »

I'm happy to use circs or dpns for this project, I started on circs and moved to dpns to see if that would solve the issue.  It didn't.  However, I'm self taught from the stich n bitch book so I'm not really familiar with various cast on methods.... it's funny though because looking in the book I only see double cast on... which is not what I use.  So I'm not quite sure how I cast on.  Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can learn to cast on so my yarn doesn't do that annoying thing.

(Basically I cast on by making a slip knot and then just... uh... twisting the yarn around the needle stitch by stitch... not a very good description, sorry ;P)
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2007 08:45:54 AM »

www.knittinhelp.com for cast on help.
I myself learned something here..I have to agree with the others..you probably used the backwards loop cast on and that long thread is part of your cast on?
Do you have the number of stitches that you should have?
It somehow just doesn't look like the usual ladder that can form in knitting in the round.
If it is just that, then knitting your tail in and along with your working yarn, with the first two stitches can really help that. You only have to knit it that way when joining.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2007 09:17:08 AM »

it's definitely not the usual in the round ladder.  And I'm pretty sure I have the right number of stitches...
ah, so long tail cast on is the same as double cast on?  (I think I was using single cast on...)

Anyway, I'll check out the double cast on directions on knitting help and in stitch n bitch.  Thanks!

edit:  look look, all fixed!!


The double cast on was confusing at first, and knitting help did not help me at all, but as soon as my eyes fell on the stitch n bitch instructions, I understood.  Anyway, I just knit 1/4 of the way around, just to see if it solved the problem, and it looks like it did!  I have to go and study for my math midyear now (it's tomorrow) but I can rest easy knowing my hat is cast on and ready to go.  Oh, and excuse my sorry excuse for stitch markers, haha, I was getting tired of counting over and over to 84 everytime I lost track ;P
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2007 10:10:56 AM »

With the backwards loop CO on circs or dpns, it's easy for stitches to fall off, which creates a long stretch between the first and last stitches. For single COs you can use knitted or cable cast ons; they may be a bit easier than the longtail/double and won't unravel like the loop CO.

Looks like you done good. And we all use whatever comes to hand for stitch markers. I like twisty ties if the yarn isn't so fuzzy it gets caught on them. Wink

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