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Topic: what do you wish people told you before you became a vegetarian/vegan  (Read 34924 times)
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« Reply #120 on: June 28, 2007 08:56:42 AM »

I am no longer a vegetarian, but I was ten years or so ago when a high-carb, low-fat diet was the thing being touted by tv, magazines, etc. I wish someone had told me to pile up a lot more on the tofu, fats, etc., and skip the huge pile of rice under my stirfry, for example. I had minor blood-sugar problems that I assumed I would have to live with but now I know were because of my poor diet.  I think some vegetarian authorities are still stuck thinking that low-protein is for everyone, and it isn't. You can definitely eat a high-fat, high-protein vegetarian diet, but it isn't going to involve endless plates of spaghetti or rice and beans-- more like chiles rellenos and tofu casserole.
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« Reply #121 on: June 28, 2007 04:39:25 PM »

I am a meat eater, and I do read this board.  I don't see why people make it their business to harass vegetarians/vegans.  I do go vegetarian around Buddhist festivals, and although I know I couldn't go completely vegan/vegetarian, I admire and respect those who do chose to go vegan/vegetarian.  My aunt has been a vegetarian for over 18 years now (she went vegetarian in her senior year of high school) but she will eat dairy/seafood to please my grandparents who worry.  Vegetarian meals are often even better then meat eater meals, and who doesn't love a big plate of veggie stirfry?
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« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2007 06:34:26 AM »

  Vegetarian meals are often even better then meat eater meals, and who doesn't love a big plate of veggie stirfry?


eeexxxxxxxacctlyyyy! I was asked why I turned vegan (by another vegan so it wasn't prodding or being annoying, just curiosity, I asked her back Wink) and I said to her "I just like damn good food. And vegan food is always damn good."
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« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2007 10:35:43 AM »

I've been in France for the last three weeks, and let me tell you it is h-a-r-d hard to be a vegetarian in Europe.  However, my program fixed it up so that the other veggies and I would have things to eat.  Usually the food was delicious, a few turned out better than everyone else's [squash quiche with more veggies on the side than you thought possible to put on a plate mmm].  Other times they just took off the meat portion leaving nothing but side dishes and meat residue [eww].
However, seeing the faces of the omnis sitting next to me as I got the best looking meal in the house made it all worth while ;3.
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« Reply #124 on: July 01, 2007 12:43:25 PM »

I've been in France for the last three weeks, and let me tell you it is h-a-r-d hard to be a vegetarian in Europe.  However, my program fixed it up so that the other veggies and I would have things to eat.  Usually the food was delicious, a few turned out better than everyone else's [squash quiche with more veggies on the side than you thought possible to put on a plate mmm].  Other times they just took off the meat portion leaving nothing but side dishes and meat residue [eww].
However, seeing the faces of the omnis sitting next to me as I got the best looking meal in the house made it all worth while ;3.
I'm sorry Wink but don't say Europe! I'm a Dutch vegetarian myself and it's just as easy to find vegan/vegetarian products and restaurants as it is in the US! And you'll also find lots of veggie food in Italy, Spain, Germany, Belgium and so on. France is a whole different story, I know.
Outside Paris, France isn't very veggie-friendly. But you actually have alot of vegetarian restaurants and shops in Paris! Smiley
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« Reply #125 on: July 01, 2007 08:42:03 PM »

I've been in France for the last three weeks, and let me tell you it is h-a-r-d hard to be a vegetarian in Europe.  However, my program fixed it up so that the other veggies and I would have things to eat.  Usually the food was delicious, a few turned out better than everyone else's [squash quiche with more veggies on the side than you thought possible to put on a plate mmm].  Other times they just took off the meat portion leaving nothing but side dishes and meat residue [eww].
However, seeing the faces of the omnis sitting next to me as I got the best looking meal in the house made it all worth while ;3.
I'm sorry Wink but don't say Europe! I'm a Dutch vegetarian myself and it's just as easy to find vegan/vegetarian products and restaurants as it is in the US! And you'll also find lots of veggie food in Italy, Spain, Germany, Belgium and so on. France is a whole different story, I know.
Outside Paris, France isn't very veggie-friendly. But you actually have alot of vegetarian restaurants and shops in Paris! Smiley

I beg to differ about Spain. Perhaps just the attitude that I observed is different from a traditional one but I doubt it. I lived with a Spanish family for a semester last year and between the meat in about every dish I ever ate and the legs of ham in almost every store I would say vegetarian is VERY hard in Spain. At tapas bars there is meat in almost all of the tapas and at most places a "vegetarian meal" is two pieces of bread with tuna in the middle.
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« Reply #126 on: July 02, 2007 08:03:23 PM »

My apologies.  I should just say France.  We spent a day in Italy [on the road mostly] and there wasn't much for me but I honestly wouldn't know of the whole country's attitude.  France though is really just starting to catch up.
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« Reply #127 on: July 02, 2007 09:55:13 PM »

I grew up on a farm and while I'm not vegetarian, I have friends that are.  Most are because they think animals are raised cruely.  Is there any sources available for people who would eat meat if they knew it came from a humane farm?
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« Reply #128 on: July 03, 2007 07:42:49 AM »

I grew up on a farm and while I'm not vegetarian, I have friends that are.  Most are because they think animals are raised cruely.  Is there any sources available for people who would eat meat if they knew it came from a humane farm?

Yes. The best way of doing that is probably to get the meat from small, local farms where you can talk to the farmers yourself to find out how they raise and slaughter the animals. To find farmers, you can look at farmers markets or check out some CSAs (farms that engage in community supported agriculture, where people buy shares and then get a bunch of food from the farm every week). If you start asking around, you will probably be able to find something. Also, if you're interested in knowing more, you could look into a couple books, which in my opinion are great and should be read by everyone who's interested in food issues: The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan, and Animal, Vegetable, Miracle by Barbara Kingsolver. These books also explain why it's better to get your meat from local farmers instead of buying "organic, free range" meat from a place like Whole Foods or Wild Oats, which would take too long to explain here.  Smiley
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« Reply #129 on: July 03, 2007 09:14:52 AM »

It is a shame that is so hard to get meat from small farms
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