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« on: December 01, 2006 04:48:59 AM »

hey,

i am sad to say that i know very little aboout making clothes. all the attempts i have made in the past have been pitiful and as a result i have decided to never try again!!

thankfully, i have not decided against paying other people to make clothes for me - hurrah!!

my problem is this:

i am getting married next year and i need to sort out my dress in the quite near future. i have ideas as to the kind of thing that i want, but nothing is set in stone as yet.
perhaps stupidly, i treated myself to a little visit to the vivienne westwood wedding shop in london a few weeks ago. as you can probably imagine, it was ridiculously awesome and i wanted every single thing in the entire shop.
i have promised myself that i can have some shoes, but all of the clothes themselves cost thousands of pounds and i can't even afford one sleeve of a westwood wedding dress let alone an entire outfit!!

i have found a lady near to where i live who is a very talented seamstress and who can make any item of clothing you want if you can provide her with a pattern.

so, i need to find a dress pattern. i have looked about a bit on the simplicity site and a couple of others and haven't found anything relevant as yet.

please, please can you help me!!

here are some pics of the kind of thing i want:

<img src="http://www.good2b.nl/images/sys/headlines/10760755254433da36acb4f.jpg">
<img src="http://www.filelodge.com/files/room14/340926/Images%20Photos/marilyn%20manson%20et%20dita%20von%20teese%202.jpg">

(i do realise that this is quite a lot to expect - but hey, i'm getting married!!)
thanks millions in advance!

helen
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2006 06:36:52 AM »

try costume patterns.  many historical costumes will have the voluminous skirts you're looking for.  i would link some examples but i am tres busy at the moment.  will see what i can dig up later if you don't have any luck.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2006 07:06:50 AM »

http://www.pastpatterns.com/1880.html

this website has some patterns on it for dresses from the 1700's on.
some of the skirts and bodices come in separate patterns and if you take the time to look through, you can find ones that might go well together for what you're looking for.

some of the skirt patterns on the page i linked might be big enough, but i'm sure you could get the seamstress to make it slightly bigger if you wanted or alter the pattern to more of what you're looking for.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2006 06:02:48 PM »

http://www.costumes.org/

This is a great resource for different types of gowns.  You'll probably have to combine a two or more to get the exact look you want.

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.list.20003.x=1

This is a little more conventional source for patterns.  One thing that you'll need to keep in mind is the type of garment you are considering will be terribly expensive to make.  I've made garments with much less skirt with 12 yards of $25 a yard fabric, plus lining.  When you get into bridal fabrics, the fabric alone can be much more expensive than that...combined with the yardage needed, it can be mind boggling!  These garments will also need a lot of filler underneath to give them to body that you'll want.  Crinoline and netting will probably be needed in large amounts.  Fortunately netting is inexpensive. 

If you have your garment made it can be very expensive.  The more expensive the fabric, the more detailed the garment the more expensive it will be.  You don't always save a lot of money when having something made.  The initial garment that my daughter started with for her wedding would have cost me well in excess of $550 just for the fabrics...with me making it.  (That is with a pattern).  If the seamstress has to spend a lot of time in design or doing custom work, the price can really go up.  I have a friend who makes custom wedding gowns for $7000 each.  Just don't be too surprised at the cost of your dream garment.  If you talk to the seamstress before hand you may find that she had a lot of wonderful ideas and ways to cut the cost before you begin.  If you work with her you may find your dream dress for a very reasonable cost. 

Good luck and may your wedding be a fairy tale affair! 

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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2006 07:05:32 PM »

view b (scroll down to the drawings for a look at the back):
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B3640=x&TI=10013&page=7

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2006 02:26:18 PM »

I'd also check out Vogue.  I've seen similar patterns to each dress in their pattern books.  Most professional seamstresses have no problem combining the bodice of pattern 1 to the skirt of pattern 2, etc.  Both styles are gorgeous!  Congratulations.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007 10:00:05 AM »

I don't know how much will this be helpful for you, because you probably need pattern made to fit your measurements, but in case you or that seamstress knew how to make it from such draft...
http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/18thpatterns.htm
Here's a scanned book about making patterns from about 1900:
http://www.costumes.org/history/galleryimages/c1899thompsonssystem/index.htm
And another from 1912:
http://www.costumes.org/HISTORY/100pages/1912thornton1.htm

Let's hope some of the advices given in previous posts are more helpful, because I suppose this would need a lot of work...
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007 11:10:06 AM »

I would say look at victorian style historical clothing/costume patterns.  The one problem with these is that they are often designed to be worn over historical underpinnings (ie a corset and a bustle/crinoline cage).  Underpinnings alone can be quite an undertaking, but a professional seamstress may be able to use the pattern as a base and redraft things for modern underwear.  (Though if you want a skirt as full as in the pics, you're going to need some skirt supports of some sort, anyway.) 

Some good victorian patterns can be found at:
http://www.pastpatterns.com/   as mentioned above.  They have an 1880s 3 piece ensemble that doesn't require a bustle http://www.pastpatterns.com/905.html (this style is known as "natural form"). 
http://www.pastpatterns.com/904.html is a bustle-type dress which has been well reviewed by several people.  http://www.pastpatterns.com/303.html 1880s wedding gown. 

http://trulyvictorian.netfirms.com/   A lot of people swear by these patterns.  The owner of the company is very reachable via email, too.  http://trulyvictorian.netfirms.com/catalog/410.html I've always loved this pattern.  The Late Bustle patterns have some great draped overskirts. 

http://www.lafnmoon.com/    They make the most popular victorian corset pattern on the market.   They also have a decent bustle/hoop combo pattern, plus some other clothing patterns. 

http://www.gbacg.org/GreatPatternReview/index.htm   This is a site that collects pattern reviews of lots of costume patterns.  It's always a great place to start.  If you go back out to the gbacg main page, you will find a link to a page that lists online vendors of patterns, which is also very helpful. 

Online stores in addition to the above:
http://www.lostcoasthistpatterns.com/   I've ordered from them, and their prices are right in line with most stores, and the service is very fast. 
http://www.patternsoftime.com/   This site is a little harder to navigate, but I've ordered from them before, and their shipping is very cheap. 



Congrats on your upcoming wedding! 
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