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« on: November 06, 2006 11:29:56 AM »

Well, my plan for christmas this year is to make snow globes/ water globes for friends. I was thinking of using polymer clay ( I have plain old sculpey) to make figures, then paint and seal them before immersing them in water for all of eternity. After reading up on the topic, I'm not so sure this is such a reasonable idea anymore! In my fantasy world plan, I make the figures, bake, paint with acrylic, and then coat with 600 layers of varnish to make water proof.

Can anyone offer any advice on perhaps different clay or paint types that might be better suited for this application?
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2006 01:12:15 PM »

guueess what!! i have a fimo clay / sculpey (cant remember which - but i can check it) klutz book and..duh duh duh duh..THEY MAKE SNOWGLOBES! with jars. that they turn upside down. so ill go check it and then post. ehhehe
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2006 01:33:03 PM »

ok . in the book they just glued their snowglobe figureine thing onto the inside of a lid of a jar and filled the jar with water and put glue on the edges of the jar and screwed the lid of the jar on. oh and they put glitter in it. so they didnt coat it with anything and you said you were going to paint yours? they just used coloured clay. so i dont know if that would make a difference or not?
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2006 05:26:51 PM »

Thanks for checking that out!! I've actually ordered some empty snow globes from National Artcraft http://www.nationalartcraft.com/subcategory.asp?gid=6&cid=37&scid=54 I'm hoping to come up with something "classy" looking that wont fade/ fall apart
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006 05:59:55 PM »

ya they didnt seal theres so maybe it wont fade? maybe if you seal it with something. Diane B will probly know Wink
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006 11:20:47 AM »

Hey,

It's not necessary to seal polymer clay, but if you plan to leave it immersed in water for a long time (say 6 months or more), a whitish "coating" will begin to show up on the clay because it is actually very-very-slightly porous (this will show up more on dark colors than light ones).  Some clay brands are also less porous or denser than others, so I assume that Sculpey will be more quicker to show effects, and Kato slower, with the others in-between.

Putting certain things in the water seems to avoid the problem (e.g., using a certain amount of glycerin, or waterbed conditioner) and those will also help with any algae, etc, you might get from using non-distilled water or adding other materials in the snowglobes.

There's a load of info/tips/etc. for making snowglobes with polymer clay inside on this page at my site if you want to check it all out:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/outdoor_snowglobes_fountains.htm
(...you'll want the main section called "Water"...)


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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2006 11:29:37 AM »

Hey,

It's not necessary to seal polymer clay, but if you plan to leave it immersed in water for a long time (say 6 months or more), a whitish "coating" will begin to show up on the clay because it is actually very-very-slightly porous (this will show up more on dark colors than light ones).  Some clay brands are also less porous or denser than others, so I assume that Sculpey will be more quicker to show effects, and Kato slower, with the others in-between.

Putting certain things in the water seems to avoid the problem (e.g., using a certain amount of glycerin, or waterbed conditioner) and those will also help with any algae, etc, you might get from using non-distilled water or adding other materials in the snowglobes.

There's a load of info/tips/etc. for making snowglobes with polymer clay inside on this page at my site if you want to check it all out:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/outdoor_snowglobes_fountains.htm
(...you'll want the main section called "Water"...)


Have fun!

Diane B.


Thanks! I have, in fact already browsed through your site and found it very informative. I guess it leaves the question of how well will acrylic paint hold up in water? I assume it would be wise to coat it in something more waterproof. I guess some experimenting is in order, of course, I could only do short term trials, but better than nothing I suppose.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2006 11:46:16 AM »

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that leaves open how well will acrylic paint hold up in water? I assume it would be wise to coat it in something more waterproof

Well, acrylic paints (and clear acrylic sealers) should be waterproof**, but they may be like polymer clay in that they can't be 100% waterproof forever... don't know.

**the paint should be fully "cured" though, I guess, not just dry to the touch

As I said though, paint shouldn't be necessary if the other things are done.

Here's something from that page at my site on water globes, but I don't know anything about it myself:

...There is a brand of acrylic paints called Patio Paints that are specifically for outdoor use on pots or concrete. Michael's carries it. Jeannine


Also, unfortunately, short-term trials won't do much good (as long  as the basic guidelines are followed) because the additional problems won't show up for a long while... results can also depend on what type of light the object is exposed to during its life (on a windowsill or under fluorescent lighting --bad-- vs. farther from windows or actually in the dark--good).


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Amazing ...  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2006 09:04:38 AM »

Kind of off topic, but if you put in mineral oil instead of water, the snow falls slower and swirls around more.
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