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« on: November 03, 2006 02:49:26 AM »

First of all, I want to say what a great community this is!  I signed up a long time ago and have lurked on and off over the years.  Lately I've been researching what all I have to do to start a business (after all, my family and friends love the stuff I've made  Roll Eyes lol).   I plan on opening an ebay and esty store within the next couple of months, before I launch my own website.  I'm interested in selling jewelry that has sort of a rock&roll/punky/goth edge.  Possibly also eventually getting into different accessories in the future ( hair, belts, etc.).  I've been brainstorming for a name for my business and I think I've settled on Midnight's Muse.  I wanted it to sound kind of "dark and mysterious" but not too dark that it would scare away the "normal" people,  lol.  Any opinions on the name?  Do you think it should be "Midnight's Muse Designs" (doesn't sound right to me) or something else like that?  If you don't like that name, any other suggestions?  

I was playing around in Paint Shop today and came up with this possible logo (smaller of course).  Thoughts?



I'm not a graphic artist by any means, so please be honest.  Does the fact that she's blowing the stars into the sky come across?  After staring at it for a while, it's starting to look like she's trying to kiss them.  Does the top of her hair/head look weird?  With the curls starting as far back as they do, does it make her head look too big?  I couldn't figure out what to do exactly.  Sometimes I look at it and it looks ok, other times not.  Should I move the words or placement of anything around to make it look better?  More/less stars?  (And it's totally ok to just say "the whole thing sucks...start over", lol.)

Sorry this is so long.  I'm pretty nervous about this whole adventure and you all are the best people to ask.  I know you will be honest, unlike friends/family who I sometimes feel just say they like things to be nice.

Oh yeah...MidnightsMus e.com is currently available, so I'm ok there.

Thanks to anyone who responds!

~Heather
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2006 05:21:07 AM »

I really like the graphic.   It's very eyecatching.   It would also make a good business card. 

The only thing I'm wondering is if you are going to use it as tags or bag toppers as well.  If you are having them printed that's fine but of you are doing them at home... that's alot of ink. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2006 06:20:42 AM »

I think your name sounds great!  It's got the dark edge but it's not overly goth and off putting. And if the domain name is available right now, you might want to buy it just so you have it when you want to start up your own website.

Your idea for a logo looks a little too dark to me.  It's hard to make out the figure against the background and the text.  I agree it's also kinda big if you're ever thinking of expanding and want a tag to sew on to belts, say.
This is just my opinion--but I'd think about trying to incorporate the design into the text so it really become s a logo and a brand. If you want to look at all kinds of crazy fonts you can check out www.dafont.com.  If you need help with the logo I've seen lots of people on craftster who often trade their services for goods.  And I wouldn't be a good girlfriend if I didn't say that my boyfriend is a graphic designer and could help.  But he charges, not much for a fellow craftster though.

Good luck on starting up!   Grin
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2006 08:44:59 AM »

I think your logo and name are great. But the others brought up some great points I wouldn't have thought of. What if you play with it in black and white? Like if you were to use it for fax letterhead or something else very basic. It might help you refine it and answer some of your other questions. Look at your current logo as the delux if-I-had-an-unlimited-printing-budget one, and now work on the smallest simplified version. I bet somewhere in between you will find the perfect image.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2006 09:18:17 AM »

Not so much.

If you're looking for a LOGO, it needs to be simple. Think about all the logos you've ever seen.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:qBxQm0j2suIBkM:http://www.eduweb.vic.gov.au/det/images/awards/Mcdonalds_logo.gif
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:RTTMNmT9R9KpLM:http://www.pepsico.com/PEP_Company/Overview/images/img_pepsi_logo.gif
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:YdBginhv3WWnUM:http://www.kig-as.dk/billeder/BP-logo.gif

They stick in your brain because they're not all... picturey and cute.  They're fairly abstract; much more like sigils than photorealistic representations of things. Marketing people spend years and years and years thinking about this sort of junk and I'm pretty sure that they'd argue that simple is better. The same goes for themesong type things. If you're a TV watcher, my guess is that you remember Intel's little ding-ding-ding-ding chimes. Simple, simple, simple.

My advice would be to simplify. I think sigils make great logos. If you're not conversant, google for the works of AO Spare and sigilization. There's a fair amount of info out there.

Or not. Smiley

Good luck!



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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2006 10:48:17 AM »

Thanks everyone!  You all brought up some good points.  I was worried about the amount of ink it would use if I were to print anything at home and also wondering if it was too busy for a logo.  It kinda seemed more like a website banner than a logo.  This was just a first draft to get the ball rolling, so I'll definitely work on simplifying it.  Any other comments/ideas would still be appreciated!
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