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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006 02:00:12 AM »

Run far far far away from numbered sizing. It's just ridiculous. My sister, a size ten, wouldn't fit the 18 for one pattern we tried (I'm not letting her see the pattern).

And seriously - you've got a nice balance between waist and hips, which is more of what matters. Make it to flatter and it doesn't make a difference what size you are (particularly since sizes are ALL lies).
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006 03:02:24 AM »

I keep a stash of cute $1 clearance fabric for trying new patterns.  It's kinda like a wearable muslin.  I - a store size 16, was shocked to see that my measurements in the pattern world were like 24 (probably for the boobs).  I almost puked.  Then I bought one and the "muslin" I made was huge.  I felt a little better.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2006 04:55:43 AM »

I sometimes make a quick copy from newspaper, and just pin it up against me.  Muslin would probably be safer though.  If you try on vintage clothes (from the forties)  the sizes make you feel kind of sad too.  At least they can't get any smaller, I have a friend who is a size zero.  How?  Doesn't make any sense.

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2006 06:16:57 AM »

First off-no, you are not a cow!

Pattern sizing is a bitch, and if you sit and think about those numbers it will bring you down.  Do what everyone else said and make up a cheap mock-up of your pattern, and adjust from there.  And beware of the ease!  It is very hard to tell how a pattern will fit until you have it on-numbers sometimes do lie.  We all have "lumps and bumps" Wink in different places, and how a piece of clothing will drape on you (have to take into consideration what type of fabric you are using as well) is hard to determine by the numbers on a pattern.  Look at the finished measurements on the back of the package as well, and find out just how much ease the pattern has.  It may require some extra steps, but it is worth it.  Nothing is better than clothing that fits right, and that is handmade yourself.

Best of luck, and let us know how it all works out! Cheesy

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2006 07:11:13 AM »

Agreed with all the "not a cow" remarks, but I do have to say that Old Navy really screws around with sizes.  I'm about three sizes smaller at Old Navy than I am at any other store.  It makes me more mad than anything!  Size is just a number, but it would be nice if that number didn't fluctuate eight times in one shopping trip!
Good luck with the pattern, girl!

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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2006 07:16:25 AM »

I agree with everyone else that those sizes are wayyyyyyy off.  I am a very small person and normally take a size 2 in stores - my measurements on a Simplicity pattern are size 10!!!!  What you have to do is make a muslin of any pattern for each company (McCalls, Butterick, etc.) and find out what size you use for tops and bottoms.  Then forever ignore their measurements and just make your size.  It works for me Smiley

Oh and on another note, what the heck is with their seam allowances?  5/8"?  That's huge!  What a waste of fabric!  At work (I used to be a historical tailor) we used 1/4" allowances.

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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2006 08:12:20 AM »

Now that you mention it I was thinking the same thing about the seam allowance.  I never do more that 1/4 to 1/2 of an inch if I can help it.

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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2006 08:51:24 AM »

You are soooo not a cow! I agree with everyone else on pattern sizing. It sucks. completely sucks. I have the same exact problem with patterns. I'm an amazon chick - 6' tall and thin - I cannot find anything that fits me in patterns and alot of times not in the stores either (New York and company is one of the few stores that I can walk into a buy something off the rack).

make a practice skirt - just like every one else mentioned and tweak tweak tweak from there.

seriously - last time I looked at patterns they all said I need a size 3x's what I normally wear in a store size.

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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2006 11:59:23 AM »

Thanks for all the replies.  I think I'm just going to go ahead and make it it a size 18.  If it's too big, I'll make it smaller.  If it's too small, I'll give it to my sister.  If it's too small for my sister, then I'll say to her, "Really? It's a size 18, I can't believe it doesn't fit." and make her cry.

/just kidding. 

I have some muslin. I'll start there. 

Again, thanks for all the replies.  They were very encouraging and helpful. 

To the person who mentioned tracing paper, where do I get that?  I've looked in JoAnn's Fabrics but couldn't find anything.  I know I need a tracing wheel to go along with it and I can't find that either.  I guess I could order it online. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2006 07:14:27 PM »

tracing paper comes on a roll and you can get it from an art or business supply place. it's not typically for dress/pattern making but it's what is used in design school.
and sizing in school is No where near what it is in stores. there is no standard for women's clothing so just forget everything you think you know about that!

have you considered making a duct tape dressform of yourself? it's a great idea when you are trying to figure out the fit on commercial patterns or alter something for a recon. maybe it's an option for you in the future?

as for just going ahead and making it, well... sizing isn't added on at the seams, it's an all over pattern thing so taking it off at the sides can make things fit funny. what i do is trace the pattern onto tracing paper and make a mock out of that or out of whatever cheap fabric i have around (if it's to be made out of stretch you MUST use stretch for your mock up as well). stitch it up quick and dirty and try it on, it only takes about an hour and will potentially save you several hours of work down the line. that way you KNOW what size you are before you cut up your pattern.
in fact, i never cut a commercial pattern, i always make a tracing so i can use the pattern over again in all of it's sizes. someone always asks for one of what you make so why not double or triple up eh?

good luck!!!!
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