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Topic: Adults Only Swap (Sign-Ups CLOSED; Send Outs 10/23)  (Read 17309 times)
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« Reply #130 on: November 08, 2006 08:46:57 AM »

Just letting you guys know that I will be giving feedback out tonight.
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« Reply #131 on: November 08, 2006 12:31:06 PM »

thanks listy, did you all see the new swap rules?
not more adult swaps due to not being able to verify ages.
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« Reply #132 on: November 08, 2006 12:46:40 PM »

I think that a round 2 will be possible, it'll just need to be worked out with the mods to comply with the new rules. It's not that anything "adult" is verboten, just that anything with a legal age restriction in ANY state in the US cannot be included. This site is quite art-oriented, so while some of the stuff from this round won't be suitable for future rounds, I have a hard time believing that artistic nudes or pinup pics would be disallowed. Whips and gags could be sold in wal-mart if they were so inclined, and wink-wink-nudge-nudge "personal massagers" already are. I don't know how to classify polymer clay penises though.

Listy, if you're planning on organizing the second round, you should get a line of communication open with someone in charge to get some clarification. If the Supreme Court struggles to define "pornography," we can't be expected to figure out where to draw the line on our own.
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« Reply #133 on: November 08, 2006 01:09:06 PM »

I think that a round 2 will be possible, it'll just need to be worked out with the mods to comply with the new rules. It's not that anything "adult" is verboten, just that anything with a legal age restriction in ANY state in the US cannot be included. This site is quite art-oriented, so while some of the stuff from this round won't be suitable for future rounds, I have a hard time believing that artistic nudes or pinup pics would be disallowed. Whips and gags could be sold in wal-mart if they were so inclined, and wink-wink-nudge-nudge "personal massagers" already are. I don't know how to classify polymer clay penises though.


I would think that they would be listed simply under adult novelties like you can get at Spencer's or places like that. We have those stores here in our malls. I am not postitve but I don't think that you have to be of legal age to purchase these type things at least here. I though that if I need to I could check with the stores and see what there policies are. I know I have seen at least this store in several states.
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« Reply #134 on: November 08, 2006 05:54:49 PM »

I found Tanza's whip not in any of the "adult" stores I visited, but Spencer's in the mall!!!

It seems that someone should have posted here or in our swap rather than adding it to the rules list.  I mean, Listy DID post a whole bunch "talk to me, mods" replies for it.

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« Reply #135 on: November 08, 2006 06:19:00 PM »

People are losing their brains in that thread. A restriction on actual pornography I can understand. However, if it's not illegal then it shouldn't be restricted. Saying that we can't send a hand-sewn thong or a blindfold because we can't verify the ages of the recipients is going way too far, but it seems that's the type of implication people are making. If parents aren't watching their kids enough that they are giving their addresses out over the internet and receiving handmade underwear, that is so their problem.

I wanna organize a round 2 of this swap just to show that we can follow the rules as specified in the OP of that post. The vast majority of the items in this swap were 100% legal in any US jurisdiction.
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« Reply #136 on: November 08, 2006 08:57:41 PM »

Okay guys, lets not get too off topic. We'll figure out whats acceptable on Craftster. Its not about whats legal it is about what we going to allow. We all know that nothing was illegal in this swap, but there are some ery young swappers and we mods can't verify ages. Some parents are not okay with their children looking at the stuff we made let alone receiving it. I will talk to the other mods and see what happens.

Keep it on the crafts though or your comments can be deleted.
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« Reply #137 on: November 09, 2006 04:05:48 AM »

Okay guys, lets not get too off topic. We'll figure out whats acceptable on Craftster. Its not about whats legal it is about what we going to allow. We all know that nothing was illegal in this swap, but there are some ery young swappers and we mods can't verify ages. Some parents are not okay with their children looking at the stuff we made let alone receiving it. I will talk to the other mods and see what happens.

Keep it on the crafts though or your comments can be deleted.

Check out the other thread, guys. The rule has nothing to do with protecting children from seeing penises. Leah clarified and I'm satisfied, I just want the rampant speculation to stop before it kills this swap.
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« Reply #138 on: November 09, 2006 05:41:02 AM »

Hey, guys. There is nothing saying the adults only swap must be discontinued. Leah was banning sending porn itself. Listener15 has done a great job organizing this swap and setting down the ground rules, and it is still within the rules of Craftster. For clarification, you may want to read this:

http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=131942.msg1288422#msg1288422

Sorry if there was any confusion, but all is well.  Smiley
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« Reply #139 on: November 09, 2006 08:34:58 AM »

Whoa, I'm gone one night and the thread goes nuts lol

I want to thank the mods a whole lot for keeping this swap in mind and helping us go with the new rules.  There will be a round 2, just with some very easy modifications (honestly, almost everything here has been in line with the new rules anyway, heck, I'm one of the few who sent stuff that isn't lol) 

So now that is done, let's back to what you wonderful people have made!
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