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moosecafejf
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« on: September 02, 2006 10:51:32 AM »

So I made this from clay originally and didn't really like how it turned out. 

Here's my before picture:



The fork marks are bleh  Undecided and you probably can't tell but I painstakingly painted orange in every indent.


Anyways, I decided to revamp it a lil while ago, and I just got my camera up and running today.  Grin  So after a some playing w/ colorful (and sparkly) Sculpey, I came up w/ my new and improved man trying to push himself out of those danged restroom signs  Cheesy



and up close...







Oh yea, and if anyone knows a good way to attach already baked clay that broke, that'd be swell to know (I was going to use super glue if there aren't any better ideas...)  Right now his left arm is just staying on w/ some sculpey built up around the bottom.  Thanks a bunch!
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Mosquito
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2006 10:56:56 AM »

That's so funny! I'm laughing myself sick. It's absolutely terrific. Grin
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2006 11:54:07 AM »

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if anyone knows a good way to attach already baked clay that broke, that'd be swell to know (I was going to use super glue if there aren't any better ideas...)  Right now his left arm is just staying on w/ some sculpey built up around the bottom. 


Superglue is one glue that's can be used for rejoining two parts of polymer clay that match exactly... for some reason, I never seem to have much luck with it though, not sure why (you should use the strongest types of superglue, and maybe the gels work better).

A better regular glue would probably be a 2 pt-epoxy glue.

There are several other good ways to rejoin broken parts though:

..."glue" with liquid clay... this will be very strong, but since it's not tacky, the parts must be propped or held together while baking

...rejoin with more clay (between the joins, and also around them smoothing the excess into the surrounding area... rebake --if you leave them in contact overnight before rebaking, the bond will be even stronger)

...drill a hole in each side of the break with an ordinary drill bit
(you can get a better grip on the bit by wrapping it with tape, or we often embed them in polymer clay handles then bake)
....push a short bit of toothpick into one side with a bit of white glue on it, put some liquid clay or superglue, etc. on the end, then join the two parts (rebake if you used liquid clay)
...other things can be used as mini-armatures too, like wire or wire mesh, etc.... in fact, plastic-coated wire like telephone wire will actually bond to the clay since it's similar composition
(so drill holes a size which will barely accommodate your armature)


And btw... to avoid the breakage problem in the first place, don't use Sculpey polymer clay Roll Eyes.  It's a brittle brand of polymer clay, and thin or projecting areas of it can easily break after baking if they are stressed. 
Instead use a stronger clay like Premo, FimoClassic, or Kato (we don't know about the strength of the new version of FimoSoft yet since it just started being substituted for the older version). 
Strong clays won't break if stressed, they'll just bend (if they're thin)or bounce if they hit the floor, e.g. (as long as they're thoroughly baked, of course).


If you're interested in more info about the brands of clay, glues used for polymer clay, and/or painting on top of polymer clay, check out these pages:

http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/Characteristics.htm (brands & types of clay)
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/glues-Diluent.htm
(... esp. Some Bonding Techniques subcategory)
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/armatures-perm.htm (for armatures to use while making the problem bits)
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/paints.htm/
(...click on Preparing the Clay for Painting On)





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(had to move them from YahooPhotos, so many now without captions)
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2006 11:55:15 AM »

Hey that's cool! (not sure I understand it exactly, but still like it a lot Grin)


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if anyone knows a good way to attach already baked clay that broke, that'd be swell to know (I was going to use super glue if there aren't any better ideas...)  Right now his left arm is just staying on w/ some sculpey built up around the bottom. 


Superglue is one glue that's can be used for rejoining two parts of polymer clay that match exactly... for some reason, I never seem to have much luck with it though, not sure why (you should use the strongest types of superglue, and maybe the gels work better).

A better regular glue would probably be a 2 pt-epoxy glue.

There are several other good ways to rejoin broken parts though:

..."glue" with liquid clay... this will be very strong, but since it's not tacky, the parts must be propped or held together while baking

...rejoin with more clay (between the joins, and also around them smoothing the excess into the surrounding area... rebake --if you leave them in contact overnight before rebaking, the bond will be even stronger)

...drill a hole in each side of the break with an ordinary drill bit
(you can get a better grip on the bit by wrapping it with tape, or we often embed them in polymer clay handles then bake)
....push a short bit of toothpick into one side with a bit of white glue on it, put some liquid clay or superglue, etc. on the end, then join the two parts (rebake if you used liquid clay)
...other things can be used as mini-armatures too, like wire or wire mesh, etc.... in fact, plastic-coated wire like telephone wire will actually bond to the clay since it's similar composition
(so drill holes a size which will barely accommodate your armature)


And btw... to avoid the breakage problem in the first place, don't use Sculpey polymer clay.  It's a brittle brand of polymer clay, and thin or projecting areas of it can easily break after baking if they are stressed. 
Instead use a stronger clay like Premo, FimoClassic, or Kato (we don't know about the strength of the new version of FimoSoft yet since it just started being substituted for the older version). 
Strong clays won't break if stressed, they'll just bend (if they're thin)or bounce if they hit the floor, e.g. (as long as they're thoroughly baked, of course).


If you're interested in more info about the brands of clay, glues used for polymer clay, and/or painting on top of polymer clay, check out these pages:

http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/Characteristics.htm (brands & types of clay)
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/glues-Diluent.htm
(... esp. Some Bonding Techniques subcategory)
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/armatures-perm.htm (for armatures to use while making the problem bits)
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/paints.htm/
(...click on Preparing the Clay for Painting On)



Diane B.


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POLYMER CLAY "ENCYCLOPEDIA" 
http://glassattic.com/polymer/contents.htm
few of my photos
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/DianeBB
(had to move them from YahooPhotos, so many now without captions)
skootie
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006 01:49:23 PM »

That's so funny Cheesy. It kind of reminded me of Phoebe's paintings (from Friends). Great Job.
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Nuhbe
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2006 02:55:32 PM »

That's super funny!!!  Cheesy

Yo had a super cool idea and made a great job...
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Sarie23
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2006 03:28:29 PM »

How cool!!  Grin That is really creative. I think they should have neat signs like that outside of every bathroom.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006 10:36:11 PM »

That is the funniest thing!!!   Awsome idea! 
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006 11:02:51 PM »

Hm...I definitely LOVE the revamp...good call.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2006 10:51:42 AM »

What a funny  sign! haha i like it , very creative.  ( revamp is much better since it makes it look more like a sign you'd see on a public restroom door)
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