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« on: October 30, 2006 06:41:29 PM »

I read the "read this first" post, but I think this question will be okay. I don't want to felt the whole knitted garment, just the dangling bits. Besides, I already asked on the knitting thread and no one knew, so they told me to come here because you guys know just about everything there is to know about felting.

Here's the deal. I made this very delicate lace shawl, and I want to needle felt the ends in so they don't come loose. The yarn I used was GGH Soft Kid (70% Super kid mohair, 25% nylon, and 5% new wool). Do you think the yarn will felt? Do you think that a first timer is more likely to ruin the object than successfully felt the ends?

I hope this post is okay because I really want to know.

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2006 07:06:44 PM »


Here's the deal. I made this very delicate lace shawl, and I want to needle felt the ends in so they don't come loose. The yarn I used was GGH Soft Kid (70% Super kid mohair, 25% nylon, and 5% new wool). Do you think the yarn will felt?


In my experiences of wet felting, I've found that mohair is one of the quickest fibers to felt.
So if you decide to wet felt the item, it should be fine
In regards to needle-felting, it should be fine to needle-felt.
If I've got it correct, in needle-felting it doesn't really matter what type of fiber it is - rather, it's about the length of the fibers.
All needle-felters reading this, feel free to correct me 
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006 02:24:20 AM »

No one can promise you you won't ruin the piece. 

However we might be able to help you if  explain the problem and ask a specific question.  Are you afraid the yarn is going to unravel? to catch and tear? the edges are weak and need strengthening? or just the knots? or the fringe?  or three tips of a triangular shawl?

What are the dangling bits?

It would help to see the shawl and to know exactly where/what effect is desired. 

Do you have felting needles? Have you tried needle felting a sample?  fulling a sample? 

One of the things felters do is experiment a lot, from the length and help given in this board  people are obviously quite willing to share felting info.  - but specific questions do get more complete answers.  As Jane Doe said "in her experience mohair felts fast......"  fibers vary even within a breed and most of us make something small or a swatch to test what will happen.

What does the "super" mean in your yarn?  If it is superwash - treated so it will not shrink when washed - then it most likely will respond poorly to either fulling or needle felting.

Maybe retitle your topic to ask "Will needle felting edges keep knitted lace from raveling" or Fulling edges of knit shawl  or Adding felted component to knit work.

Good luck with your shawl.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006 06:00:24 AM »

Sorry, I guess my question was confusing. I am worried that the changes between the old ball and the new ball will show or unravel because the shawl is lace. On a non-lace project, I would usually weave in the ends, then sew them in place with some matching thread, but I don't think that will work in this case. I'll post a picture of one of the changes when I get done with work later today.

As for the "super," I have no idea. That's just what the tag says. The rest of the tag is pretty much in a different language.

I don't have felting needles, and now I don't think I could find them anywhere nearby, either, because I live in the middle of nowhere. We have a Walmart. I'd probably have to buy them online. From what I've heard, wet felting sounds a little less precise than what I'm going for. I don't want to felt the entire piece, just the places where there are ends of yarn hanging because of a ball change.

Thanks for you help so far and let me know if I need to clarify anything else. I'll take some pictures for you when I get home from work/school.

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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006 07:32:54 AM »

Ahhh, Fluffy Monkey - thanks so much for the clarification - it does really facilitate understanding the problem and specific issue.  The pictures will be helpful.  As a non-knitter, the type of stitch and the usual way of securing ends of two skeins of yarn is unknown to me.   

It might be helpful to do a test connection - take a couple of strands of the yarn and add them together - do you knot it somhow?  - then untwist the dangling end and wrap it around and into the yarn before the join area - needle the overlap area and the join to matt the fibers together.  Needle felting matts the fiber and it shortens the length, so you may need to make the area that will be  ovelaped with a looser stitch so when it shortens it will not cause a dimple.

It might also be possible to divide the loose end into 3 parts and use a darning needle to weave the thinner strands into the yarn strand in the shawl body.  Or maybe just a tad of sewing it with invisible thread. (clear monofiliment)


Do check at Walmart - Look for Clover sewing supplies - I too live in a rural area and it used to be that felting needles were not available - however the local Ben Franklin Crafts has been carrying felting needles for about a year now.  By Clover - 3 needles in a sealed pack.  And just lately they also have some kits and  the Clover punch.  So you might find it at your Walmart or a local Quilt or Sewing store.  Especially if there is a BabyLock (Embellisher) or Bernina Dealer in your area.

Best wishes.
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