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rion165
« on: August 08, 2006 06:51:21 AM »

Anyone game for this?
http://swallowtailshawl.blogspot.com
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angellical
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2006 08:27:16 AM »

I'm in! I cast on yesterday and am up to Budding Lace 2. Hopefully I'll finish this one! Smiley

I'm using KnitPicks' Gloss with size 6 needles but I think I may need to start over in size 5. What are you using?
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rion165
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2006 10:31:32 AM »

I might be using Gloss too. It still being enrouted to me.
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rion165
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2006 10:43:19 PM »

someone has update on http://swallowtailshawl.blogspot.com/ about her finished shawl.
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Donnna
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2006 01:33:46 AM »

I would really like to make it,but there's no chances to get a patern overhere in Slovenija...
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rockadot
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2006 08:46:10 AM »

I googled the suggested yarn and it is on sale for $5 or $6 at onefineyarn.com. You only need one skein, so with shipping it might come to maybe $8 or $9.
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icantotallymakethat
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006 03:38:52 PM »

I just started this the other day. I'm using Jaggerspun Zephyr in a beautiful brown color. The finished shawl pic on the blog that rion165 linked to is just beautiful. One post on that blog also mentions that she kept dropping yarnovers, which I've also had some problems with. It seems like it's always the one right next to the center marker, but I'm not sure what exactly I'm doing that lets them drop off the needle. So far I've managed to fix all of them without much trouble.
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strangebutcher
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006 07:31:31 PM »

i started knitting this a few days ago. im using a sport weight alpaca  handspun that ive had laying around for awhile. its turning out pretty well although im a little nervous that the gauge may be a bit tight. we'll see i suppose and i may just have to give a mean blocking session. i have four more pattern repeats left with the budding lace chart then its on to the final three charts. im pretty excited about it. i havent run into the issue with dropping the yarn overs but thats probably because im using a heavier gauge yarn. ill post progress picks after the budding lace is done and you can let me know what you think.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2006 10:07:05 AM »

Can't wait to join!  Still waiting on my copy in the mail Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2006 06:32:03 PM »

I love this pattern and wanted to make it for my mom. But i have never done lace I have 3 skiens of misti alpaca laceweight but it feels way to small for  the 3.5 needles and i can barely feel the yarn in my hands. Is this normal for knitting lace? I hope im up to the challenge
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2006 06:59:28 PM »

When knitting lace, it's completely normal for the yarn to seem too fine for the needles you're using. That's how you end up with a lovely, light fabric. So no worries about that.   

There are a couple things that I didn't learn until after I'd knit a couple of lace projects that now I find really helpful. Sorry if I'm repeating things you already know, but for some reason these things weren't obvious to me.  Smiley  If you haven't done lace before, you might want to try using wooden or bamboo needles. Metal can be too slippery sometimes, making it easy for stitches to escape. And another thing that helps is to use stitch markers between repeats of the pattern. If you make a mistake and end up with too many or too few stitches, the markers make it easy to figure out where exactly the problem is.

You should definitely give it a try! It's really fun to watch how the fabric looks as it grows, and you will get lots of ooh-ing and aah-ing from friends.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2006 06:58:51 PM »

thank you so much for your advice , there are some things that they dont tell you in all the lace articles ive been reading. I am going to cast on tonight!
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crnaofca
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2006 09:00:20 AM »

I would really like to make it,but there's no chances to get a patern overhere in Slovenija...

oo, someone from my part of world:) finally:)

(sorry for offtopic:))
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2006 12:27:33 AM »

Nice to meet you overhere,have you got the patern already??
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icantotallymakethat
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2006 06:50:37 PM »

Does anyone have progress reports on their shawls? Mine is going okay. I only have three more of the budding lace left, so I'll be interested to see how the switch to the next lace pattern goes.
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icantotallymakethat
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2006 04:59:55 PM »

Well, I switched to the next section and about twenty stitches into the second row of that, I remembered that Lily of the Valley lace is hard. I just can't get that purl 5 together thing right, for some reason. I'm never sure if the tip of the right needle is going through all 5 stitches in the way that it should, and then if I pull it back out to make sure, suddenly there are only 4 stitches where there most definitely should be 5. Grr. Any suggestions?
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rion165
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2006 09:53:40 PM »

basically i knit qutie loosely. and especially for the nupps, i applied the least strength when i do the k1 yo k1 yo k1. If these 5 sts are done loosely, you should be able to draw the loop through the 5 sts.

good luck with the nupps.
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strangebutcher
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2006 12:53:31 PM »

hey all i actually finished about a week ago but due to camera issues haven't had a chance to post pics. hopefully this week sometime though. mine came out a bit small but like i said before i probably should have gone up a needle size or two. i still love the results. someone posted a pretty good solution to the nupp issue on one of the other knitalong pages that worked for me. instead of doing purl 5 tog. do slip the first three (of the five) knit two together and pass the three slip stitches over.  abbrev. it would look like: s3k2p. it seemed to give the same results i tried to purl five together for two rows before getting really frustrated. i hope that helps and if you need clarification just ask I'm not always the best at explaining things without a visual aid!
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icantotallymakethat
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2006 03:29:31 PM »

Thanks for the advice! I will try again and see if things go better.
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2006 11:21:03 AM »

Hi,
5 p tog. = a disaster.
But I managed it (just slip 4, p the 5th and pass over the 4 slipst.)

See pic's on my blog, they are unblocked, this coming week will be pic's of a blocked white alpaca Swallowtail.
My first difficult lace project, so I'm proud!
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icantotallymakethat
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2006 10:16:55 AM »

For the nupps, I started slipping three, purling two together, and passing the slipped stitches over. It's still a little awkward but is not longer impossible.  Wink
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indieanajess
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2006 11:19:17 AM »

Okay, I feel kinda silly asking this, but.....



are you supposed to knit this on circulars? Since it ends up big? I've never made a shawl before.
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2006 02:20:03 PM »

I don't remember what the pattern says, but I prefer to use circulars for all projects that are large-ish.

I'm making the Flower Basket Shawl from IK Fall 2004 right now (same designer as the Swallowtail), and I actually switched to circulars because my stitches were getting crowded on the straight needles.

Especially with lace, it's easier if you can spread your stitches out...helps you to keep your place!
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indieanajess
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2006 02:58:55 PM »

I don't remember what the pattern says, but I prefer to use circulars for all projects that are large-ish.

I'm making the Flower Basket Shawl from IK Fall 2004 right now (same designer as the Swallowtail), and I actually switched to circulars because my stitches were getting crowded on the straight needles.

Especially with lace, it's easier if you can spread your stitches out...helps you to keep your place!

That makes sense. I thought about it after I started. I'll go find some...
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2006 08:14:05 AM »

i just ordered my yarn for this project!
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2006 08:42:57 AM »

Um...does anyone have some advice for frogging mohair?

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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2006 09:05:13 AM »

Frogging? Ouch.

Some people say sticking the whole thing in the freezer for a bit makes it easier to frog. Pretty much just tink back a stitch at a time and you'll be less likely to damage the yarn.

If you're feeling particularly brave, you can drop the stitches in question and pick it back up in pattern. For that, you need zero distractions and a stiff drink. This was my correction method of choice when knitting (screwing up) Kiri.
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2006 09:16:01 AM »

Frogging? Ouch.

Some people say sticking the whole thing in the freezer for a bit makes it easier to frog. Pretty much just tink back a stitch at a time and you'll be less likely to damage the yarn.

If you're feeling particularly brave, you can drop the stitches in question and pick it back up in pattern. For that, you need zero distractions and a stiff drink. This was my correction method of choice when knitting (screwing up) Kiri.


Thanks! I've heard of the freezer thing before. I'll have to give it a shot. Stitch by stitch will take a while, but I guess it will have to do...
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MsPete
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2006 12:35:48 AM »

Hi
I love this pattern, but have never knitted lace before.  I am a bit lost with the the chart and directions.  How do you get from 7 stitches to 27?  Can someone help me please.   
Thanks
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indieanajess
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2006 07:27:44 AM »

Hi
I love this pattern, but have never knitted lace before.  I am a bit lost with the the chart and directions.  How do you get from 7 stitches to 27?  Can someone help me please.   
Thanks

I was confused by this when I started, too. All those yarn overs will increase your stitches to 27.
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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2006 04:01:54 PM »

I just posted pictures of my finished swallowtail over on the completed projects board:

http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=126058.0
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MsPete
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2006 07:23:44 PM »

Thank you so much for your help!  It is coming along nicely now. 
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2006 11:31:17 AM »

I just finished this last night! It only took 2 and a half weeks to knit and I am very happy with the results! I thought this was a very easy pattern and a great choice for a first lace project!
I used KnitPicks Memories; color Redwood Forest, 2 skeins. Knit on size 4 circs. Pics are on my blog http://auntieamandaknits.blogspot.com/2006/10/swallowtail-shawl-from-ik-fall-06.html
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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2006 06:47:03 PM »

Wow, that looks really nice!  I made a Clapotis in the redwood forest yarn... isn't it nice?
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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2006 10:39:26 AM »

Hey everyone! Hopefully someone checks this *gulps*
I started my Swallowtail, and got confused with the chart after I knitted the second Budding Lace chart. The instructions tell you to repeat these six rows 14 times, but I'm confused about the pattern repeats and the no stitch squares. Do I do the pattern repeat twice instead of once like I did the first time I knit these six rows?
Thanks to anyone who can help!
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« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2006 01:59:57 PM »

I'll try to answer this in a non-confusing way. For the pattern repeats, you'll do them once the first time you knit those six rows, twice the next time, and so on until you're actually repeating it 14 times.  When you repeat, you just jump back to the first box in the red square that marks the repeat section.

As for the "no stitch" squares...since the number of stitches you have on your needles increases every row, each row doesn't have the same number of stitches and, hence, on a chart, the same number of boxes.  Ignore these "no stitch spaces."  They do help you to see the shape of what you're knitting.  Many people who are visually oriented like them for that reason. 

I like the article on the subject from knitty:

http://www.knitty.com/issuewinter04/FEATcharts.html

Or this one from a blog:

http://www.thedietdiary.com/blog/index.php?p=260

Good luck!
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2006 08:51:13 AM »

That totally cleared up my confusion. Thank you!!
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2006 08:36:57 AM »

I just cast on last night with some Sea Silk I've had for a year. Am enjoying it so far!

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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2006 02:53:37 PM »

I got some KnitPicks Shadow (merino laceweight) for Christmas that I hope to do this one in very soon. I think it'll be a good warm up before starting my big '07 project (full sized circular shawl). I've done a little lace but not with anything lighter than fingering weight (pretty light fingering weight though).

I didn't notice the p5tog in the pattern before but I'm super happy about the alternative suggestions.

I'd like to do this on my one of my interchangable sets but I'm a pretty loose knitter (have to go down 2 needle sizes, usually) so sadly, that may not be possible. Tongue I guess this one ends up too large for short straights, huh?

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« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2007 10:22:01 PM »

Well, I finally got around to starting this tonight! LOL Between working on a couple other projects and then an unfortunate accident, I was knocked back a bit.
But the important part is I started, right?  Grin
I got through the first budding lace part and two repeats of the second budding lace part. So far so good. Smiley
Is anyone else working on this now, maybe?
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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2007 08:29:19 AM »

i'm two rows away from finishing up my second swallowtail!

it wasn't exceptionally hard the first time around, but doing it a second time was far easier/more enjoyable. maybe it's because i wasn't working on a deadline this time?
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« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2007 12:39:07 PM »

Hello everyone, I just found this thread, and I just finished my shawl its still blocking, this is my second time blocking lace so I hope I did it correctly,

I used Lacey Lamb 100 extra fine lambswool, I still have more than half of it left

here is my before and during blocking





I have more pictures on my blog http://moosieknits.blogspot.com/2007/08/swallowtail-shawl-is-now-blockingyes.html
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« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2007 03:40:44 PM »

That shawl is absolutely gorgeous! Amazing what blocking can do!
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« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2007 03:43:52 PM »

Wow, that's lovely
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« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2008 05:00:28 PM »

Apparently I missed the boat on this KAL, but I should start mine in the next few days and I'm so excited (with a little terrified mixed in)
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