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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2006 07:01:29 PM »

After thinking about it and reading the replies this is what I think:

I am not looking to mass produce anything.  IF I put up an Etsy shop or an Ebay store, there will most likely be maybe 10 items up at a time, maximum.  The items will all be made my me, with my choice of colours, notions, etc.  The items may or not be exactly as the pattern/tutorial/instructions called for, most likely not.  I usually end up tweaking things here and there, thus perhaps making them my own.

Like 99% of the craftsters out there, I do not think that this is going to be a huge money-maker.  I think one is lucky to simply recover their costs.

So....if someone is mad because they think that something I've made resembles something they've made then I think they should be flattered.

Having said that, I am talking about things like purses, knitted scarves, etc.  I am not refering to anything more artsy than that.

If I were an artist or jewelry designer and someone was reproducing my work exactly, I think that would be different.

That's my 2 cents. I think.

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2006 07:20:20 PM »

i just realized in my last post i didn't even answer the question! i am not a lawyer, blah blah blah, so don't quote me.

According to the Copyright office, ANYTHING is copyrighted the moment it gets written. so to wonder if anything is copyrighted or not is moot. it is.

From what i understand a design* cannot be copyrighted (the look of it, i mean; for example, that pink gwyneth paltrow dress was knocked off the minute she walked into the academy awards). the thing that is copyrighted is the way in which you make that thing. so if you are making something from a pattern and selling it and you don't have permission, you are violating copyright. if you are making something that looks like that thing but you came about it in a different manner, then it's ok. i'm not positive on this but you should do a craftster search on copyright. there are threads and threads of it all over craftster.


*design here means stuff that is sewn or crafted or whatever. design here does not mean graphic design.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2006 11:19:06 AM »

i'd like to start with "forgive my ignorance"

i've just started researching starting an etsy shop and all the reading that would go along with that.

i do have a question... i know i will find the answer to "down the road", but i just don't want to make mistakes.

i knit/crochet more than any other craft. how would i be able to sell things that i did not create the pattern for?

tia for any and all help
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2006 11:26:23 AM »

I'm pretty sure you can't at all. It's my understanding that you can't sell from a pattern you didn't create. I think (not positive) if you use a pattern but have changed it and made it your own not following the pattern 100% u can do that?
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2006 03:32:14 PM »

You have to change it at least 30%, but thats only if you are designing from something you saw. If your going off a pattern you bought you can't do that at all.
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2006 07:20:17 PM »

On some level, it depends on who made the pattern.  Most folks won't allow you to sell anything you made with their patterns - after all, you are profiting from their hard work in designing it.  Some people, particularly small business crafty folk will let you use their pattern for a finished item if you credit them for the design.

That being said, I don't think anyone will come after you because THEY designed a garter stitch scarf too.  But if you are using someone else's pattern, at the VERY MINIMUM they should be credited.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2006 08:30:28 PM »

ok.

i've read the posts, and i've done a lot of thinking.

my conclusion: spend more time learning my craft and learn how to make my own patterns, even if they are simple.

thanks so much for your info
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2006 06:49:39 AM »

With sewing patterns, there are some patterns that do allow one commercial use.  Some unlimited, some if you make under so many items, some if you write and ask for permission, some if you credit the designer - read the fine print and ask the designer/pattern company if unsure.  Some people make patterns for crafters to use for making products to sell.  Some want a royalty fee some are free to use once you buy the pattern.  Check into those possibilities for knit and crochet patterns.  Good luck.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2006 07:03:07 AM »

With sewing patterns, there are some patterns that do allow one commercial use.  Some unlimited, some if you make under so many items, some if you write and ask for permission, some if you credit the designer - read the fine print and ask the designer/pattern company if unsure.  Some people make patterns for crafters to use for making products to sell.  Some want a royalty fee some are free to use once you buy the pattern.  Check into those possibilities for knit and crochet patterns.  Good luck.

thank you so much. hadn't thought of that.

seems like i have a lot of homework  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2006 07:44:45 AM »

You are welcome.  It does get a bit mindboggeling.  If you get permission to use a pattern, just keep the permission in a hard copy file.  Also some books allow use of patterns, others do not.  Best wishes.
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