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atomic mary
« on: June 21, 2006 07:26:45 AM »

okay-
can anyone out there help me? i made the beautiful butterick retro wrap dress out of a white fabric with red cherries and green stems. i used a cherry red bias binding around the neck, armholes and hem. it looked great, and i got a lot of compliments. i prewashed the fabric,(97% cotton 3%spandex) in hot water and all was fine. however, i did not wash the bias binding. i never have and have never had a problem with the colour running. it did this time though. so my beautiful dress i wore ONCE is now pink with red uneven splotches through out!
i did try to wash it again alone and it got worse. i bought some Run Away by Dylon but it said "not for use on coloreds" (really that's what it said!) so i bought some Simply White which said it was fine on colours. it  didn't do anything. i haven't dried the fabric yet although it's been washed in cold water 3 times. (it's sitting in my fridge crisper at the moment) my husband suggested dyeing it red all over. not what i want to do. i thought about trying to do a tie dye sort of mottled red and pink background not that i want to but it's not wearable the way it is.
 so anybody? how do i fix this? can i fix this?
thank you for reading my ranting and to anyone with a suggestion
atomic mary
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006 07:56:41 AM »

i don't know what happened1 this doesn't seem to have posted?
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2006 10:24:46 AM »

oh, i've had that happen a few times--red commercial binding is the worst offender.  Smiley

what has worked for me every single time is a long LONG soak in a a solution of oxyclean and cold water.  by long, i mean overnight if needed.  it didn't hurt anything on the fabric but it completely got rid of the dye run off from the red binding.

do NOT get the water hot, and do NOT put the dress in the dryer until you are sure all the dye is gone.

good luck!  let us know how it goes.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2006 10:27:52 AM »

Rit makes a dye remover.  I had to use it once on my hubby's shirt. red seeped out of a pillow case onto the white writing on a dark shirt and the remover got it right out.  The oxyclean should work, too.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2006 06:50:47 AM »

oh rostitchery! i tried the oxyclean, left it in my bathtub over night and it doesn't seem to have worked! i don't know if i used enough of the oxyclean or if it's just hopeless? i had never used it before and had gotten some off of my mother. she suggested using 3 scoops (6tbsp) but maybe it wasn't enough? i guess i'll try it again, i haven't anything to lose at this point. it's not a good week for dresses for me! i also had a disaster of a time sewing yesterday. i just can't get my waist/bust darts right! anyway, thanks for the suggetion and i'm going to go right back into that bathroom and mix some more up!
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2006 04:26:44 PM »

Try the RIT dye remover, it works well.  I used it just the other day on a shirt I tried to tint light brown but ended up dyeing about the color of tree bark.   Wink  It takes quite a while, you may have to do it twice to get rid of it all, but it works really well - and the rest of the shirt (screenprinted flowers) is fine.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2006 05:28:33 PM »

atomic mary, when i used it for the red dye run, i used about 1/4 cup oxyclean to one gallon water and i left it to soak overnight.  maybe you didn't use enough oxyclean for the amount of water you used???

start another thread and tell me about your darts, i bet there is a solution for the problem.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2006 08:21:04 PM »

okay, i'm trying again. i don't think i was using enough. when my mom gave it to me she just put it in a ziploc bag and told me to not let the neighbours see her give me a baggie full of white powder.  Roll Eyes. i'm also using a bucket instead of my bathtub. i just thought the dress was so much fabric that it wouldn't fit in a bucket. it does. oh well, this has been a learning experience if nothing else. especially pre wash red bias binding! if the oxyclean doesn't work this time i'll try and find the rit.
thank you everyone
atomic mary
oh yes, i will start a new thread about the darts too.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2006 07:13:04 AM »

i didn't mean that you should use ONLY one gallon--i meant that i used 1/4 cup oxyclean PER gallon or water.

sorry for being so confusing.

i use a 5-gallon bucket, half full of water, and then put the clothes in. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2006 06:12:48 PM »

it's okay, i knew what you meant rostichery. Smiley i had a four gallon bucket and filled it to the 3 gallon line, used 3/4 cups of oxyclean,left it over night (again) and it still didn't do anything! i think i've given up! on the bright side, i was able to buy more of the fabric! there was just under 3m left so i took it! i asked my boss today if anyone else had bought any of this fabric and she said she was pretty sure it was just me that that bought the whole bolt in bits and pieces! i knew i should've just bought the whole thing when it came in! Tongue oh well. i think i have enough in my pieces to remake the dress and then i can make the few changes i felt it needed! it will be an even better dress! the only thing that i'm unsure of is the #$&*! bias tape. i looked for a different colour, and nothing had the same punch to it. in your opinion, do you think if i washed the bias tape and then put some vinegar in the water that it would set it? or maybe you have another suggestion? i've never made my own and not even sure i want to at this point in my sewing career. i'll get there one day.
thank you again everyone
atomic mary
p.s. i am still going to look for the rit dye remover, i'm just not sure where in this town to find it. it's hard enough finding anywhere that carries the just the dye!
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2006 07:10:11 PM »

vinegar is useless, it is an old wive's tale about that.

i wouldn't put it in the washing machine because then it will unfold and tangle and you'll have to press it into shape again.  i'd just unroll it into a bucket of plain water and let it sit while the excess dye leaches out.  change the water a few times until you see that it is clear and you should be fine.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2006 08:00:51 PM »

thank you. i'll try that.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2006 07:56:16 AM »

Depending on where you live, most little grocery stores carry it.  I live in a small town (1 square mile) and my little hole int eh wall grocery store had it.  All walmarts carry it and kmarts, etc.

If you can't find it locally, the rit company sells products online. 

http://www.ritdye.com/laundry.asp

I just checked their site and it might not work...

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Use Rit Color Remover to help remove color from dye-transfer stains on washable 100% white fabrics without damaging garment fibers. Rit Color Remover will reduce color from colored items and white items with any colored areas.
Note: Not for use on blue denim.


I used it on a blue shirt (it was nylon) so maybe it would just make your item worse???  I think you might just have to redye it all red.  Sad
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2006 09:43:55 AM »

I can't help you with the current situation (sorry), wish I could.  However, maybe I can help you to keep this from happening again.

1.  I pretreat anything that is cotton based and is RED, PURPLE, BLACK, NAVY....and the list goes on and will be used on another color.  Unlike many of you, I do not normally prewash something before making it.  The exception is where I am mixing fabrics or colors that I think might shrink or fade...that is really a totally different issue.  When I pretreat these fabric that I think will FADE, I use a WHITE vinegar/water soaking solution.  When I wash the article, I use a scrap of white to test the fade resistance of the item.  I also keep a small scrap of white fabric to check the color match to make sure that the fabric isn't bleeding.

2.  There is a marvelous fairly new product out.  I don't know the name but it is in the laundry aisle of the stores and looks like fabric dryer sheets.  I don't know how they work but they capture the color from the wash water.  I've (so far) had very good luck with these and it might prevent a problem in the future.

3. CHECK the wash/dry instructions on your fabrics when you purchase them.  NOT all fabrics are meant to be washed in hot and not all are meant to be dried in the dryer.  Most Spandex fabrics, even those with a small amount of spandex are to washed in cold or warm water and hung or flat dried (depending upon the MFG's instructions).  Check this.  Heat can break down the elasticity of your spandex, it can change the physical characteristics of the fabric (even make them sticky or losoe their stretch), in some cases it can shrink the fabric too, reducing the enjoyment you can get from your project! 
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atomic mary
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2006 06:54:56 AM »

well, everyone,
i washed my bias tape. and i washed my bias tape and i washed my bias tape. all in all i hand washed it at least 10 times. then i put it in one of those mesh lingerie bags and washed it in the machine. i put a scrap of the cherry fabric in the wash too. and it came out as pink as my dress! i didn't buy those colour magnet things although i think i might look for them. i've heard that they work too. it's just that it's not always me that does the laundry. and my husband and i disagree all the time about how it's to be done. i could see him accidentally forgeting and i'd have another pink dress. so, i am going to make my own bias tape. i'm going to buy a red gingham and wash that to make sure it doesn't run and if it does, i did find an apple green gingham that matches the leaves i could use. and that's it! it's going to work, it's going to be better and i can stop obsessing over it and just get it done and wear it!!
so this should be it. again thank you for all the help and suggestions you  had.
atomic mary

p.s. i figure i'm going to dye my old dress all red and then depending on how that turns out black. nothing to lose and maybe i'll gain a new dress.a girl can never have too many Grin
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2006 07:01:52 AM »

you will never regret learning to make your own bias tape because it will mean that you never again are limited to what is available to purchase in packages AND you can have as much or as little as you need.

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2006 08:30:01 AM »

wow! i just made my first "bias tape" out of paper. so i will try it on some scraps of fabric that i have. i can't believe how easy it is one you get past the confusing instuctions! Smiley and it makes so much! i was showing a co worker what i was thinking of doing and she liked my idea of the gingham with the cherries for the dress, but then she started bring over all these other fabrics saying "try this!" or "what about this " and "hey check this out!" and it really did open up a lot of possibilities! i thought it was going to be a lot harder and with me having two little kids and not much time i didn't think it was going to be possible. you're right rostitchery, i can't see me ever regretting it. not that i thought i would. it's always good to learn new things Smiley and i do use bias tape and piping quite a bit.
thanks everyone,
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2006 01:59:13 PM »

good for you atomic mary!  isn't it exciting?  its like magic.

i use up a lot of ugly fabric by turning it into binding--somehow having a little sliver of it on the edge makes it not ugly at all, because all it becomes is colors, not designs.
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