No worries candyholic46
i do loop each piece of yarn individually. It's quite slooooooooow but its means you can make em as thick or thin as you like. I'll try take some pics soon to show I do it if that'll make things easier for you?
They stay in really well. i have the tie pretty tight around my hair bun, stick about 3 bobby pins in at the base and i can dance and run around etc and they dont even move, they're pretty well stuck on there.